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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Maybe the Middle East is a balance of competing forces. At the time that Obama withdrew US Troops, the US may have been more resented by the Iraqis. Staying longer may have built up more resentment against the US. Now the Iraqis are asking for assistance from the US.

    One of the desired results of US policy is to have a reserve of respect from other nations. Obama has avoided over-playing US Power. Eventually, the ideal is for the Middle Eastern Nations, Tribes and Religions, to have a balance of power without US intervention or threats. Obama has been successful in avoiding creating more resentment than necessary.

    If there was one clear solution that could be imposed and result in peace, then leadership in the sense of imposing boundaries would be possible. There is no clear solution for the Tribes and Nations that have been at war periodically over many centuries. When the balance is shifting toward massacre, then it is time for the US to step in, with minimal assistance, to avoid mass murders.
    The US had already 'stepped in' and Iraq was 'stable'. Now it is chaos and future more uncertain.

    What BHO didnt realize is that it takes two sides to agree to peace and a ceasefire, but then foreign policy was never his strong suit.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you think 'advisers' will bring peace to anywhere in the Middle East?
    No. That however does not change their job as advisers.


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Maybe the Middle East is a balance of competing forces. At the time that Obama withdrew US Troops, the US may have been more resented by the Iraqis. Staying longer may have built up more resentment against the US. Now the Iraqis are asking for assistance from the US.

    One of the desired results of US policy is to have a reserve of respect from other nations. Obama has avoided over-playing US Power. Eventually, the ideal is for the Middle Eastern Nations, Tribes and Religions, to have a balance of power without US intervention or threats. Obama has been successful in avoiding creating more resentment than necessary.

    If there was one clear solution that could be imposed and result in peace, then leadership in the sense of imposing boundaries would be possible. There is no clear solution for the Tribes and Nations that have been at war periodically over many centuries. When the balance is shifting toward massacre, then it is time for the US to step in, with minimal assistance, to avoid mass murders.


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    Obama was caught red handed spying on dozens of other nations and world leaders. Tell me more about that reserve of respect.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    If that's the case why was my nephew that served there and wounded twice told repeatedly by the Iraqis, "We want you to leave and stop occupying our country!"
    Anecdotal.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I think its wayy to much of a oversimplification to blame this all on "BO". It has to deal with the invasion in the first place back in 2003. It has to do deal with the debaathfication. It has to deal with Sunnis bascially being bared from any representation in governemnt. It has to deal with the failure of Iraqi military.
    Obama never mentioned any problems or foreseeable problems when he announced the departure of US Troops. In fact he appeared to take credit for all the success. Obama Flashback: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    The advantage of BO leaving Iraq, was to make it clear the US is not interested in colonizing Iraq.
    We never were-how much of their oil do we get after the lefts supposed "war for oil"?

    Now, the disadvantage of BO leaving Iraq is that it has allowed ISIS to flourish and its also set a precedence to terrorists around the world-keep a low profile till we leave, and then the coast is clear.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No. That however does not change their job as advisers.
    Then they can advise over the Internet, just as we do.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Who upset the balance of power in the ME by invading Iraq?
    Who is the President, Bush or Obama?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then they can advise over the Internet, just as we do.
    Cool beans. Do you have a point your trying to make?


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Who created the vacuum?
    Obama, when he pulled out of Iraq for votes.

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