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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol. These ones:

    Iraq rejects US request to maintain bases after troop withdrawal | US news | The Guardian



    The Iraqis didn't want it. We abided. What exactly is your problem?



    Spare me the diatribe. You had absolutely no idea that Obama actually followed the previous administration's set strategy and are now complaining because he did.
    The Iraqi's wanted us to stay, as did Obamas military staff. Obama wanted to political benefits of "ending" the war and now here we are.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Serious question for those who say we pulled out too early and/or pulled out irresponsibly: When would be a good time? Or, phrased differently, do you honestly see a point where we would have ever "won" and thus been able to pull out responsibly?

    I don't. Maybe you do, and if so, please tell us how and when.
    it wasn't just the pullout -whatever the true story, I've heard different versions (SOFA).
    Maliki ran the army as Shia militia -purging Baathists, and Sunni - many of whom joined ISIL.

    Iraq was broken the day we went in for....what was that reason again?

    Still there are ways it should have been handled better instead getting out of Dodge city on a expressway.

    the advisors are trainers - and supposedly non-combat. We can't fight this war for the region - use airpower get the relevant states in
    as much as possible (which isn't much) and "degrade" Daesh (ISIL) in the hopes the sectarian army will decide to fight again.

    Not what I want, but what I see as possible

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree that ISIS has developed and grown during the time that Obama was in office. The same could be said for every other world leader, currently serving, around the globe. To put as "under Obama," like he was their 5 star General or something is dishonest and misleading. It's warped.
    Obama ran on being able to fix these things, and instead his own politics have led to this flare up. Iraq is his baby, he took credit for it when it was going well, so logically he must accept the responsibility now.

    And other nations are testing us. This is what happens when we elect weak leaders.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    President Pinprick comes through again, I see. All this clownish politician is doing by putting men in by dribs and drabs is making it likely more of them will be lost. A substantial force--on the order of the force in South Korea, or somewhat smaller, with the right mix of aircraft, etc.--could finish these people once and for all. A force like that is what the experts say this country should have left in Iraq.

    It's exactly because that was not done that this has happened. The longer these curs survive, and appear to be defying the U.S. and getting away with it, the brighter their star shines. The idea should be to whip them so badly, and to appear to do it so easily, that no one like them in the world would ever doubt who the strong horse was.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Are they wearing running shoes?

    Because the CIC promised no American boots on the ground.
    slippers..

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Seattle Times article. Increased aid (hellfire missiles) was delivered a week before December 25, 2013...
    Which was already ordered and bought, along with the F16s.

    There is no mistaking BO knew what was going on. BO sent out Kirby and Kirby stated it was Iraq's problem to deal with.



    U.S. Said to Rebuff Iraqi Request to Strike Militants......Uhm, note that date in June of 2014.

    As the threat from Sunni militants in western Iraq escalated last month, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki secretly asked the Obama administration to consider carrying out airstrikes against extremist staging areas, according to Iraqi and American officials. But Iraq’s appeals for a military response have so far been rebuffed by the White House, which has been reluctant to open a new chapter in a conflict that President Obama has insisted was over when the United States withdrew the last of its forces from Iraq in 2011.

    “Ultimately, this is for the Iraqi security forces, and the Iraqi government to deal with,” Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said Tuesday......snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/wo...-say.html?_r=2

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which was already ordered and bought, along with the F16s.
    Nope. From the article: "The move follows an appeal for help in battling the extremist group by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who met with President Obama in Washington last month.

    There is no mistaking BO knew what was going on. BO sent out Kirby and Kirby stated it was Iraq's problem to deal with.
    So what?


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nope. From the article: "The move follows an appeal for help in battling the extremist group by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who met with President Obama in Washington last month.


    So what?


    So what?..... So who gives a **** if BO sent aid to Iraq and it was late. He still ****ed up and kept ****ing up. You weren't trying to deny that were you?

    Moreover now his plan has failed completely. Doesn't say much for BO and his plan made by him and his inner circle. He should try listening to the experts who have been telling him what needs to be done all along.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So what?..... So who gives a **** if BO sent aid to Iraq and it was late.
    It was late. The request was made in November and it arrived in December...

    He still ****ed up and kept ****ing up. You weren't trying to deny that were you?
    He "****ed up"? No I'm denying your claim that we gave no increased aid in 2013. We did. Maliki asked for it in November and it was received in December...

    Moreover now his plan has failed completely. Doesn't say much for BO and his plan made by him and his inner circle. He should try listening to the experts who have been telling him what needs to be done all along.
    I personally think we shouldnt be involved in this conflict, period.


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It was late. The request was made in November and it arrived in December...


    He "****ed up"? No I'm denying your claim that we gave no increased aid in 2013. We did. Maliki asked for it in November and it was received in December...


    I personally think we shouldnt be involved in this conflict, period.


    Yeah, you would have to go back way before that when BO knew ISIL was a problem.

    Oh my claim, did you forget was put out by the media all up until Dec? Also I claimed they didn't get any of it until 2014. Can you show me where they received the shipments in Dec of 2013.

    Yeah I know you do personally.....but you seem to have a bit of trouble when Admitting BO was in the wrong and what he knew.

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