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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sorry that is Maliki in his own words and literally how it happened. We were willing to leave troops behind in Iraq, Maliki wanted some as well, however Maliki's own men and government did not want them.



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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just Obama's Iraq right? Not Bushes. Not our foreign policy for the last 14 years right? Just Obama's fault.

    he he he...

    It hurts eh?

    yes, it is Obama's Iraq, the world has been calling it that.

    He defined it when he pulled out to look good for 2012, he owned it when he mission creeped Libya and created ISIS, and he bought it when he decided he was going back in with this "no boots on the ground" limited engagement.....

    Classic Obama and his lame brained supporters to take six long years of lies and politicizing EVERY issue and insist Obama has had no effect. Unfortunately, his incompetence and making everything about his image is coming home to roost...it's payback time.

    This will go down in history as "Obama's war" and I believe stands a good chance of being Obama's Katrina.

    Of course he waited till after the election..everything with this guy is about his personal image...notice also its leaked on a Friday...
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sorry that is Maliki in his own words and literally how it happened. We were willing to leave troops behind in Iraq, Maliki wanted some as well, however Maliki's own men and government did not want them.
    we were willing to leave behind too few to make a difference - Maliki wanted enough to help him hold the country together, and was willing to put together the coalition government to get us the SOFA if we would back him. We didn't, and so he didn't. That is literally what happened. If you don't like it - take it up with Secretary Gates et. al.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    we were willing to leave behind too few to make a difference - Maliki wanted enough to help him hold the country together, and was willing to put together the coalition government to get us the SOFA if we would back him. We didn't, and so he didn't. That is literally what happened. If you don't like it - take it up with Secretary Gates et. al.
    Your forgetting the most important part. Malikis own men, and the Iraqi parliament would not allow this to happen.... They wanted none, zero.


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    he he he...

    It hurts eh?

    yes, it is Obama's Iraq, the world has been calling it that.

    He defined it when he pulled out to look good for 2012, he owned it when he mission creeped Libya and created ISIS, and he bought it when he decided he was going back in with this "no boots on the ground" limited engagement.....

    Classic Obama and his lame brained supporters to take six long years of lies and politicizing EVERY issue and insist Obama has had no effect. Unfortunately, his incompetence and making everything about his image is coming home to roost...it's payback time.

    This will go down in history as "Obama's war" and I believe stands a good chance of being Obama's Katrina.

    Of course he waited till after the election..everything with this guy is about his personal image...notice also its leaked on a Friday...
    Of course it is. Its easy to narrow down and only blame one person, because everything is so simple. But see post #14


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    ISIS exists in Iraq today because president chump left Iraq to the wolves. We left, they filled the vacuum, and as a result many more have been and will be killed. Obama lost the peace in Iraq.
    There... was peace in Iraq? Did they legalize marijuana in your state?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Al-Maliki: US Troops Out! | Informed Comment
    "I do not care about what’s being said. I care about what’s on paper and what has been agreed to. The withdrawal of forces agreement [Status of Forces Agreement or SOFA] expires on Dec. 31, 2011. The last American soldier will leave Iraq."

    Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com
    "In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

    But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it. While he was inclined to see a small number of American soldiers stay behind to continue mentoring Iraqi forces, the likes of Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, on whose support Maliki’s ruling coalition depends, were having none of it. Even the Obama Administration’s plan to keep some 3,000 trainers behind failed because the Iraqis were unwilling to grant them the legal immunity from local prosecution that is common to SOF agreements in most countries where U.S. forces are based.
    You are tap dancing around again. Obama is not some disinterested spectator here, HE is POTUS and HE decided to pull out for his PERSONAL political gain.

    To try to blame ISIS on Bush or Maliki is just silly, and the American people aren't buying it.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just Obama's Iraq right? Not Bushes. Not our foreign policy for the last 14 years right? Just Obama's fault.
    It's been more then 14 years, remember what Eisenhower said about the military industrial complex and Kermit Roosevelt's involvement in Iran 1953

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Obama is just fulfilling revelations.
    You mean Revelations, the Bible?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You are tap dancing around again. Obama is not some disinterested spectator here, HE is POTUS and HE decided to pull out for his PERSONAL political gain.

    To try to blame ISIS on Bush or Maliki is just silly, and the American people aren't buying it.
    Dear God. Alright, rewrite history so it can fit your agenda.


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