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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Disagree with you there my brother. Iraq wanted us gone and got all they bargained for.
    those who had visibility on the negotiations say different. Two separate SECDEFs and the Ambassador to Iraq under Obama have all come out and pretty much confirmed that it was the Administration that wanted us out, and were warned what that meant.

    Iraq swore the western infidels were to blame for all their problems and we were doing nothing to help. I think they see that was a misguided train of thought.
    that's not what I saw from the ground level, and it's not what is described by those who were at the higher level.

    We made sure to burn all the bridges as we left, and are now surprised that they reacted accordingly.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was President George W. Bush who signed the SOFA that all troops would be out of Iraq Dec 31, 2011. President Obama tried to extend it but al Maliki said if troops stayed they could possibly be prosecuted under Sharia Law. So we left.
    Same tired excuse. Whos at the wheel, Obama or Bush?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Exactly. EVERY president inherits problems from his predecessor. Greatness of a president is determined by how he handles those problems. Obama apologists continuing to blame Bush six years into Obamas term, are simply acknowledging what anyone with a brain already knows--Obama is a failure. Simply put, if you inherit a mess and after 8 years it remains a mess or has even gotten worse, you have failed as president. Period.
    Not when your name is Barrack Hussein Obama and a few thousand liars are prepared to alter history.

    THEN ...well...IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Did I ever deny that ISIS has flourished under Obama? The difference is I dont mereley just blame Obama because of ISIS becoming the power they are today. I blame 1.)the invasion of Iraq. 2.)the debaathification of Iraq. 3.)The Iraqi government not representing the Sunnis. 4.)the long and complicated US foreign policy in the middle east.
    Im glad both you and I can agree that ISIS has flourished under Obama.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Are they wearing running shoes?

    Because the CIC promised no American boots on the ground.
    Every Promise made by Barack Obama comes with an expiration date.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Does anyone really doubt that in a matter of time there will be as many or more American and coalition troops on the ground in Iraq and the area than there would have been had President Obama not beaten a hasty retreat from Iraq shortly following his election. It's impossible to be certain, but had the American forces been stationed in Iraq all this time, since 2011, it's quite possible that the ISIL/ISIS/IS movement never would have ventured past the Syrian/Iraq border in the first place.
    Exactly. You can take the time to do something right the first time, or you can expend lots more time and effort to try to do it again, later.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Obama is just fulfilling revelations.
    Hey biblical scholar, it's Revelation, not revelations.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im glad both you and I can agree that ISIS has flourished under Obama.
    Do you think ISIS is only Obama's fault?


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Same tired excuse. Whos at the wheel, Obama or Bush?
    Bush signed the SOFA.


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Exactly. EVERY president inherits problems from his predecessor. Greatness of a president is determined by how he handles those problems. Obama apologists continuing to blame Bush six years into Obamas term, are simply acknowledging what anyone with a brain already knows--Obama is a failure. Simply put, if you inherit a mess and after 8 years it remains a mess or has even gotten worse, you have failed as president. Period.
    Jesus ****ing Christ. Nobody is claiming that Obama doesn't bear his share of the responsibility for the current morass in Iraq. HOWEVER, certain folks around here are claiming that Obama is solely, 100% to blame for this mess, and he's NOT.

    These folks are doing this with the obvious intent of absolving the Republican president for his share of the blame. And, of course, to use Obama as a cudgel to beat up left-leaning posters.

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