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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well he did say it was to early to tell if his plan was working or not.....but that was Tuesday while the Election was going on and not much was focused on the issue. It has failed. His usual with things overseas.


    Iraq's Sunnis Won't Fight ISIS for U.S......


    Iraq's Sunnis won't fight ISIS for the U.S. says NIQASH, a non-profit media organization operating out of Berlin. Without Sunni support, America's war in Iraq cannot succeed. Here's why.

    According to NIQASH, a source at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad said there have been secret negotiations between various Sunni Muslim armed factions, via Arab and Iraqi Kurdish intermediaries, for the past three months. At the request of U.S. diplomats and military personnel, Shia officials from the Iraqi government have also been meeting with the leaders of these groups in Erbil, Kurdistan and Amman, Jordan.

    The Sunnis seem to be choosing a middle ground, one which does not serve America's interests. According to a 1920s Revolution Brigades (Sunni militia) leader, various militias came to the decision "not to support the international coalition against ISIS. They also decided not to cooperate with ISIS either. If the [Iraqi] army or the [Shia] militias attack [Sunni] areas they control though, they will fight both groups."....snip~

    Iraq's Sunnis Won't Fight ISIS for U.S.*|*Peter Van Buren
    Hmm... Maybe we need to try the Egypt/Israel model where we arm and pay both sides forever not to fight each other.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just Obama's Iraq right? Not Bushes. Not our foreign policy for the last 14 years right? Just Obama's fault.
    Bush isn't in office and Obama has 2 years left. At what point is it ok to criticize his Iraq policy?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Hmm... Maybe we need to try the Egypt/Israel model where we arm and pay both sides forever not to fight each other.
    or, we could arm them and let them wipe each other out.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    or, we could arm them and let them wipe each other out.
    Or wipe them both out ourselves and auction off the land but retain the oil rights.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The war started. And violence escalated, and then dramatically dropped?What changed? One POTUS made a commitment to getting the job done.
    You do realize that after troops left Iraq, there were 4 years of 'relative peace'. If we're going by your flawed interpretation of the numbers, by following the Bush administration's plan, Iraq saw "peace" for 4 years. Correct? Hell, if we use your metric for peace, Iraq was still technically at peace in 2013.

    Conversely, I wonder how many more video's of mass execution you need to see before you realize that another (and current) POTUS did the exact opposite-and look at the fallout.

    Besides, life under Saddam, with his WMD attacks, etc wasn't exactly "peaceful", was it. Im sure you can answer that.
    No, no. You made a ridiculous claim and are now trying to avoid it like the plague. You don't get to run. Tell us, if Iraq saw peace in 2008, when casualties were as high as when the war first started, does that mean that in 2013 Iraq was peaceful too? After all, violence in 2013 only reached the levels of 2008.

    Civilian death toll in Iraq highest in years, fueling concern of Al Qaeda 'resurgence' | Fox News

    The United Nations said 7,818 civilians were killed in 2013, a return to 2008 levels. The startling figure follows warnings from lawmakers and analysts that the violence threatens to undo hard-fought gains by the United States.
    You set the standard for 'peace'. Now you get to be exposed for your nonsense.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    There was a day when I would have said worse.

    But, now, with Iraq and Afghanistan, having met a few dozen soldiers who served in Kandahar, and read the writings of many Muslim Canadians, scholars and professionals who opine that the middle east is best lest to middle easterners, that NO outside help comes without agendea; it's time for true sovereignty. Yes, it will mean people are going to die, Arab will kill Arab, but it will also mean Arab's won't be getting even with America.
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    As much as I agree...I disagree as well. They hate us. And it isn't just our involvement. It is our freedom. That pisses off the sharia hardliner nuts more than anything. The world would be better if we quarantined the Mid East and nobody got involved though.

    But then where would the 1st world fight its wars against each other?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Hmm... Maybe we need to try the Egypt/Israel model where we arm and pay both sides forever not to fight each other.
    It would be cheaper to pay the poor over there 75k for each dead body of a terrorist they bring to us.....they could live out their lives in comfort and get rid of the problem at the same time.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It would be cheaper to pay the poor over there 75k for each dead body of a terrorist they bring to us.....they could live out their lives in comfort and get rid of the problem at the same time.
    I am willing to bet that it would cost over $75K just to identify each "terrorist" worthy of the bounty - or will we simply pay that bounty for any dead body that is submitted as such?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You do realize that after troops left Iraq, there were 4 years of 'relative peace'. If we're going by your flawed interpretation of the numbers, by following the Bush administration's plan, Iraq saw "peace" for 4 years. Correct? Hell, if we use your metric for peace, Iraq was still technically at peace in 2013.



    No, no. You made a ridiculous claim and are now trying to avoid it like the plague. You don't get to run. Tell us, if Iraq saw peace in 2008, when casualties were as high as when the war first started, does that mean that in 2013 Iraq was peaceful too? After all, violence in 2013 only reached the levels of 2008.

    Civilian death toll in Iraq highest in years, fueling concern of Al Qaeda 'resurgence' | Fox News



    You set the standard for 'peace'. Now you get to be exposed for your nonsense.
    We weren't out of Iraq in 2008.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    As much as I agree...I disagree as well. They hate us. And it isn't just our involvement. It is our freedom. That pisses off the sharia hardliner nuts more than anything. The world would be better if we quarantined the Mid East and nobody got involved though.

    But then where would the 1st world fight its wars against each other?
    And they hate each other more than us, MMC just linked to Sunni ISIS killing Sunni's. They can't be appeased, and to go that route will only make things worse.

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