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CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

So what when he visited. We gave the word that we would increase aid to him during the visit.

So what.....the Order for the Helicopters and Hellfire Missiles goes back to the agreement we had before Maliki came to visit in Nov of 2013. Which BO was obligated to fulfill the order.
 
I am willing to bet that it would cost over $75K just to identify each "terrorist" worthy of the bounty - or will we simply pay that bounty for any dead body that is submitted as such?

Do you think we can tell by the weapons they carry? Do they have tats? What about by the clothes they wear?

Do they advocate for a Caliphate?
 
Oh bull****!

Please post the details of that agreement and how, exactly, that agreement led to the convenient withdrawal in time for his re-election.

This is a lie, an outright lie.

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The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008.

Get informed.
 
We weren't out of Iraq in 2008. :2wave:

You just said Iraq was peaceful in 2008, that's demonstrably false. Do you have anything else to add to your ridiculously false statement?
 
Before or after the election is irrelevant to me. I just wish the president would either do what it take to drive ISIS out of Iraq or just get the heck out completely and let the chips fall where they may. This limited this and limited that, this gradual escalation, seems to me all of this had been tried before some 50 years ago.

Either go whole hog or don't go hog at all. Getting in and winning the dang thing as fast as possible with doing whatever it takes will save lives in the long run. ***** footing around and lengthening this thing out will cause a whole lot of more lives than necessary. I repeat, either do what is necessary now or just stop the whole thing cold.

Obama's foreign policy is called a QB sneak- he is thinking that by sending in a few thousand at a time he hopes the public wouldnt notice...
 
You just said Iraq was peaceful in 2008, that's demonstrably false. Do you have anything else to add to your ridiculously false statement?

Compared to what it is now it was quite peaceful. Compared to Saddam it was quite peaceful.

Now that Ive answered that, whos at the wheel, Bush or Obama?
 
Compared to what it is now it was quite peaceful. Compared to Saddam it was quite peaceful.

Yes, and compared to Ottoman empire, it was also peaceful, that however is irrelevant to your claim and subjective. If Iraq at war means 'peaceful' you've just entered the realm of doublespeak where up is down and war means peace. That's sophistry.
 
Yes, and compared to Ottoman empire, it was also peaceful, that however is irrelevant to your claim and subjective. If Iraq at war means 'peaceful' you've just entered the realm of doublespeak where up is down and war means peace. That's sophistry.

Watching you dance is something. Who's at the wheel, Bush or Obama?
 
Wait? So stating something that happened in the past that is part of the problem, "we shouldnt bring up"? Then you are only getting one side of the problem... You know "those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. "

I have a degree in history. I know the phrase. I also know you can't change it. So statements like this:

I think we should of never invaded in the first place. I think we should of never debaathified the country.

Are pointless. You brought up bush telling us what we shouldn't have done. Reminds of the captain obvious episodes from South Park.

I think we should of pulled out from the get go, we have had no business being there. Yes Obama is to fault in this.

Ok. So you agree that the pull out should have been done and do you believe we should just let Isis sit? How do you feel about the 1500 troops?
 
Do you think we can tell by the weapons they carry? Do they have tats? What about by the clothes they wear?

Do they advocate for a Caliphate?

Yep, that was it. The guy (or gal) that I bagged had indicated support for an Islamic state - I swear to Allah that is true. ;)

BTW, why should only "poor folks" outside of the US get taxpayer funded bounties for dead "terrorists"? I would gladly bag an advocate (or two) for an Islamic state should I encounter them. ;)
 
Yep, that was it. The guy (or gal) that I bagged had indicated support for an Islamic state - I swear to Allah that is true. ;)

BTW, why should only "poor folks" outside of the US get taxpayer funded bounties for dead "terrorists"? I would gladly bag an advocate (or two) for an Islamic state should I encounter them. ;)



I would point to his broken AK first, then raise the eyebrows a couple times with a smile.
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well if they let us poor Americans get the money for such. They would call us Mercs or Bounty Hunters. So they can't have that. We would be considered professional likes. :lol:
 
Obama's foreign policy is called a QB sneak- he is thinking that by sending in a few thousand at a time he hopes the public wouldnt notice...

I guess I have been building up to this statement for quite awhile, months. But I wanted to give the president a chance before I spout off. My sentiments now having seen this send in a few troops here and a few troops late followed by a few more until you have over 500,000 which gives the enemy time to adjust, learn and change tactics and strategy to the next move they know is coming.

Okay, either do what it takes now to win and drive ISIS out of Iraq quit this ***** footing gradual buildup of troops and gradual escalating the bombing. Limited anything hasn't won anything. Either do what is necessary or do nothing. Either take what actions necessary and if it means sending in the troops in force and increasing the sortees to a 1,000 a day, do it or bring the boys home and let the chips over there fall where they may.

Engage to win not to delay or quit.
 
I would point to his broken AK first, then raise the eyebrows a couple times with a smile.
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well if they let us poor Americans get the money for such. They would call us Mercs or Bounty Hunters. So they can't have that. We would be considered professional likes. :lol:

The thing is, that policy would make us as evil as them, perhaps worse. They advocate killing "infidels" and promise a special bounty (only?) for those that die in the process. ;)

I believe that we have tried that bounty idea on a few leaders of the Jihad but, in order to collect that bounty, one then places themselves high on the list of "infidels" and likely would never last long enough to enjoy the bounty
 
You didn't really address the question. You just recited hindsight.


Hindsight? You mean forsight. The article I reference is from 2006, I've been suggesting it's coming to fruition exactly as they planned. I didn't forsee obama helping them via the arab spring, but the timeline, is spot on.
 
So what.....the Order for the Helicopters and Hellfire Missiles goes back to the agreement we had before Maliki came to visit in Nov of 2013. Which BO was obligated to fulfill the order.

So in other words, we did increase aid to Iraq.
 
So in other words, we did increase aid to Iraq.

We kept to the same quota that was agreed upon by contract......but he did give a lil aid. Nothing where Maliki could use it against Sunni and it not be noticed. Also.....after the fact of ISIS becoming more of problem due to BO's lack of motivation. Which says nothing for BO knowing about them becoming a problem long before Dec of 2013.


Did you look up some of the older threads on the Issue of Lebanon and that front for ISIS?
 
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Get informed.

So what about Iraq's request for at least 10,000 troops which Obama denied?

These pathetic wormy attempts to re-write what happened under Obama by citing what happened under Bush is still bull**** no matter how you want to cut the fart.

If getting informed is what you propagandists shovel in the name of preserving the myth that Obama actually didn't destroy something he touched then ignorance is bliss.

Go shovel this crap elsewhere
 
Just came over "breaking news" on the telly-o-vision.

Huh.
Odd how that decision came just after the election, eh?



Yeah. I suspect that might not be a coincidence.

The world (Including the USA.) has to do something about ISIS, but I sure hope that this ends up better than what Vietnam did. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed.
 
I have a degree in history. I know the phrase. I also know you can't change it. So statements like this:
So do I!


Are pointless. You brought up bush telling us what we shouldn't have done. Reminds of the captain obvious episodes from South Park.
simply voicing my opinion.

Ok. So you agree that the pull out should have been done and do you believe we should just let Isis sit? How do you feel about the 1500 troops?
I think we should pulled out a long long time ago. I dont think we should send more troops (i dont think we should send any troops).
 
We kept to the same quota that was agreed upon by contract......but he did give a lil aid. Nothing where Maliki could use it against Sunni and it not be noticed. Also.....after the fact of ISIS becoming more of problem due to BO's lack of motivation. Which says nothing for BO knowing about them becoming a problem long before Dec of 2013.
So we did give aid. We did increase aid to Iraq in 2013.
 
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