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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I would have done the same. Iraq refused to offer our troops immunity from their barbaric laws and let them just be American. They looked a gift-horse in the mouth so **** 'em.
    Just a simple question-do you think a world with less American presence will be a better place, or a worse place?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Good point, Obama stated there was indeed PEACE in Iraq.
    ah......

    See, that's where things go seriously into surrealism in American politics. Even what is on record, from the mouth of the President is ignored in asserting the new reality.

    They say politics makes strange bedfellows, but here I am in league with Yankee Conservatives because everything the US left says is questionable at least. ****, here we are two years down the road, we it's on record, yet these vermin demand "what peace"..

    Ah...the one Obama said was there when he really needed your vote.....

    IS there something in the water?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Is there another "revelations"?
    There are many revelations from many sources, but only one Revelations to my knowledge. I thought perhaps you were referring to other insight you've gained or predictions made by others. But you mean Obama is ushering in the apocalypse as per the Bible.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not Obama - he will assert that the coalition plan (never his plan) is working but not as fast as he had hoped.
    Well he did say it was to early to tell if his plan was working or not.....but that was Tuesday while the Election was going on and not much was focused on the issue. It has failed. His usual with things overseas.


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    Iraq's Sunnis won't fight ISIS for the U.S. says NIQASH, a non-profit media organization operating out of Berlin. Without Sunni support, America's war in Iraq cannot succeed. Here's why.

    According to NIQASH, a source at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad said there have been secret negotiations between various Sunni Muslim armed factions, via Arab and Iraqi Kurdish intermediaries, for the past three months. At the request of U.S. diplomats and military personnel, Shia officials from the Iraqi government have also been meeting with the leaders of these groups in Erbil, Kurdistan and Amman, Jordan.

    The Sunnis seem to be choosing a middle ground, one which does not serve America's interests. According to a 1920s Revolution Brigades (Sunni militia) leader, various militias came to the decision "not to support the international coalition against ISIS. They also decided not to cooperate with ISIS either. If the [Iraqi] army or the [Shia] militias attack [Sunni] areas they control though, they will fight both groups."....snip~

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Oh, and the final move to the endgame. BO needs a new idea. As the Syrian Rebels we were arming and training just got wiped out and whatever we gave them is now in the hands of Al Nusra AQ.


    Tragic Setbacks for U.S. Allies in Iraq and Syria.....


    Western Iraq saw more brutal bloodshed this weekend after the Islamic State massacred 322 people of the Albu Nimr tribe, a Sunni group, including women and children. The Iraqi government confirmed the attack in the Anbar region, which began on Saturday and continued into Sunday, and was described as "systematic killings."Beyond the lives lost, the success of these "systematic killings" will have a long-term impact on the struggle between ISIS and the Iraqi government. "The fall of the village dampened the Shi'ite-led national government's hopes the Sunni tribesmen of Anbar—who once helped U.S. Marines defeat al Qaeda—would become a formidable force again and help the army take on Iraq's new, far more effective enemy," noted Reuters's Michael Georgy.

    In Syria, the United States faced another setback in its battle against terrorist groups, when weapons distributed to anti-government rebels ended up in the hands of an al-Qaeda splinter group, Jabhat al-Nusra. The weapons provided by the United States included GRAD rockets and TOW anti-tank missiles. It is unclear if the moderate rebels who had been trained by the United States surrendered or defected to the terrorist group. The Independent reported that a U.S.-backed rebel group, Harakat Hazm, surrendered on Saturday night "without firing a shot" after al-Nusra attacked the villages it controlled. Some soldiers apparently defected, and the Syrian Revolutionary Front, another group receiving U.S. support, was driven from its strongholds.....snip~

    Tragic Setbacks for U.S. Allies in Iraq and Syria

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just Obama's Iraq right? Not Bushes. Not our foreign policy for the last 14 years right? Just Obama's fault.
    Most definitely, it IS NOW.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    ah......

    See, that's where things go seriously into surrealism in American politics. Even what is on record, from the mouth of the President is ignored in asserting the new reality.

    They say politics makes strange bedfellows, but here I am in league with Yankee Conservatives because everything the US left says is questionable at least. ****, here we are two years down the road, we it's on record, yet these vermin demand "what peace"..

    Ah...the one Obama said was there when he really needed your vote.....

    IS there something in the water?
    Peace and then theres none. Bush's fault unless its a success. Anyone else is to blame. Its the dance of the liberal.
    I always hear this song in my head as they dance...

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Just came over "breaking news" on the telly-o-vision.

    Huh. Odd how that decision came just after the election, eh?
    I expect in 2015 we will see even more with Congress more that willing to fuel the engines of war and aid their backers.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Just a simple question-do you think a world with less American presence will be a better place, or a worse place?
    There was a day when I would have said worse.

    But, now, with Iraq and Afghanistan, having met a few dozen soldiers who served in Kandahar, and read the writings of many Muslim Canadians, scholars and professionals who opine that the middle east is best lest to middle easterners, that NO outside help comes without agendea; it's time for true sovereignty. Yes, it will mean people are going to die, Arab will kill Arab, but it will also mean Arab's won't be getting even with America.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Okay....let's see if I follow.

    There was no peace in Iraq you say...

    So why did Obama pull out again?
    He followed the agreement established by the previous administration and the Iraqi government.
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