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Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

US Conservative said:
We have the left (media/academia/hollywood) indoctrinating people to hate this nation, and anyone who points out obvious flaws (10 kids out of wedlock, lack of education, raising a family on a minimum wage job, passing on welfare from generation to generation) is painted as hateful (and of course conservative).
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a351 said:
Apparently, huh? Something tells me you're assuming so because of your own personal tendencies, and not based upon anything substantive. Regardless of whether or not she benefited from AA in her collegiate years, she appears to have had a overly successful career. Being both a top flight attorney and a member of the Fed's board of Governors is nothing to sneeze at.
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quota/token
 
Perotista said:
I agree, it is the will that is lacking. It is as you state that both parties have their ear plugs in and will not listen to a word the other says or any ideas from the other party to solve the numerous problems this nations has. If the idea is from the other party, it is bad and our party has to be against it. If the idea is from our party it is automatically good and we have to be all for it. Never mind the merits of any idea, that doesn't count.
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I know Campbell's soup is the best. I have never had any other. Therefore all the others have to be ****.

But, I will add this as I did some time ago with a group of youth's bemoaning our issues here...."When was the last all candidates meeting you went to and made a fuss?" What has always amazed me is that I learned my stuff in America. We linked arms and faced bayonets and we got our asses "arrested" - they drive you ten blocks and let you go. And then I look at the birth of the Tea Party. All they had to do was meet and the liberal press went ape****.

At the time of the government shut down i asked what would happen if every Vietnam vet occupied a federal park in DC?
What would happen if 50 to 100 people wearing signs hat said "no more lies" showed up at both their local nominating meetings to influence the vote. With that I am reminded of some people in rural BC who were fed up with the choices so about 50 of them helped get their guy nominated at the Liberal party event, then turned around and got the same guy elected at the NDP meeting a week later. It didn't stick but it sure woke people up.

Then there was my great motto of the 60's "suit up, show up, throw something" today it's cheap shots but you get the idea.
 
Kobie said:
Again, it doesn't make you look racist at all when you post **** like this.
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I don't care. Liberals have used the racist card so many times it has no meaning anymore. And yeah, she was picked to be US attorney by both Clinton and Obama because she is black. And that's why she is being picked USAG There are at least 40 people I can personally think of at DOJ who are top flight prosecutors. AT this level its political. There has only been one AG in years who was actually the best available lawyer for the JOb. It was acting AG Peter Keisler Ashcroft wasn't bad. Bill Barr was pretty top flight as was Carter's last AG Benjamin Civillettti
 
polgara said:
Interesting. What would you replace them with - especially the 17th Amendment?
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If you repeal the 17th amendment the selection of senators goes back to the state legislature. In other words Section 3 Article I would go back to being in effect. It states: The senate of the United States shall be composed of two senators from each state chosen by the legislature thereof.

In other words senators wouldn't be voting the party line anymore. They would be voting the wishes of each state legislature and the people of those states. It would make party affiliation less meaningful. The Senate was suppose to represent the states, not the political parties. The people have the House of Representatives or the peoples house.
 
Perotista said:
If you repeal the 17th amendment the selection of senators goes back to the state legislature. In other words Section 3 Article I would go back to being in effect. It states: The senate of the United States shall be composed of two senators from each state chosen by the legislature thereof.

In other words senators wouldn't be voting the party line anymore. They would be voting the wishes of each state legislature and the people of those states. It would make party affiliation less meaningful. The Senate was suppose to represent the states, not the political parties. The people have the House of Representatives or the peoples house.
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Given today's political climate, some hard and fast federal regulations regarding gerrymandering would have to go into effect before I'd even remotely consider the possibility of repealing the 17th amendment.
 
TurtleDude said:
quota/token
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In your opinion perhaps. Assuming that minorities/women appointees are simply token hires isn't a good look. Kinda flies in the face of that color blind society thing.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Again, thank you. You make me think, which at my age is a good thing and in the company I keep all too rare.

Values. and how they ply in socio-political arenas.

Something the left blew way back when, I guess when "socialism" was distancing itself from the other "isms", it became important to first, kill God, then kill the family concept. Every utopian scenario from Orwell to Asimov to Huxley, they all remove the family along with any form of faith...and they all end up in hell.

Meanwhile, as you note, man is wired to care for his kin. We are the only species that does so at the community level. We are wired to the "social contract". Widows were first to receive care of any kind by the Hebrews, who were commanded by a very pissed off God. Our Godly compassion was then hijacked by the most formidable of institutions, the Roman Catholic Church and compassion has never recovered. Hospitals, orphanages, schools etc., all fell away from local control and decision making and moved onto a centralized model with one guy, allegedly infallible at the top. We surrendered our right to care for our neighbor. And now that we have as a society fired God as our moral guide, surrender that right of caring to....government.

Which demonstrates man's psychosis. The same institution that steals your money, misues it, lies about the need for war can suddenly be trusted with the health and welfare of those who cannot fend for themselves, all within a clearly corrupt, vote generating environment. I know people on very serious medication for duality thinking like that.

Today, it is a purely political fight and based on a simple human trait. Throughout history and documented in the Bible is there a division of people, one that says "our government/church/kingdom has to look after [them]. The other says no the Good Samaritan is where it's at. But the answer is at the beginning with the unanswered question "Am I my brother's keeper?"

The only problem is the Good Samaritan died when they killed God. There aren't any anymore, it's the government's job. The end result of all social programs is there...a transfer of the duty/right to care for your neighbor to the hands of a bureaucrat whose career path will be determined not by his compassion, but for the exactitude of his widgets. So of course the family as a concept is as dead as God in the minds of too many. An adult suggesting to a youth who is trying to skateboard down my mountainside and across two lanes of heavy beach traffic out of control is going to hear a very excited "**** off!"

the utter irony is that true compassion extends from values, core values about the sanctity of human life and right to the pursuit of happiness. While socialists preach compassion, they reject the values which lie at its core substituting bureaucracy for true caring. The results can be seen in the eyes of any high school graduate in America today.
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You mentioned how America appears to an outsiders eyes. I think to mine we as a society are very sick right now-and I am NOT religious, I merely try to be virtuous, failing often.

Ive read about how the soviets, despite living amongst some of the most fertile land on earth could not even feed themselves. And when a calf was sick and crying all night, it was left to die-why bother? You dont get any benefit from helping, and so would be a fool to do so. It turned ethics and morality on its head. As you state the Good Samaritan can not exist in this state.

Theres NOTHING virtuous about destroying the institutions of society (family, etc) and the state ripping initiative from the minds of people in order to assure a supplicant culture of the entitled, disaffected, and dependent. That is what the left is doing here, case in point the war on poverty and its resultant welfare state. And it was done for votes.

The same lefties teach children everyday how bad Americans are throughout history (we are histories bad guy), without context. In college its stepped up. Our universities should be about the free discussion of ideas, but instead are merely a pulpit and a means to sanction the right.

And our media paints a biased picture intended to elicit an emotional response, one that paints the left as good, and the right as evil. The left denies this even happens or suggests its equivocation (fox news!!!!!)

And then hollywood blasts presents warped views of morality, always wrapped in a shiny-cool wrapper. That guy MUST be right because he's cool and hip and gets the ladies. Conservatives are irrational, and mean. Its all about feelings.

One can hardly wonder why at the end of this onslaught "joe six pack" is left angry, resentful, and frustrated. And THATS where the left lives, like a jealous kid who didn't get as much candy on Halloween-there to rectify things-just vote democrat. They will be your family. They will be your God.

The decay of this nation has been something to behold, and its come from within. China and India dont yet hate themselves, it will be interesting to see where they are in 50 years. Like I said, we are quite sick.
 
US Conservative said:
Very insightful Kobie.
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Well, when you spout off your usual partisan trash (DURR THE LEFT IS TEACHING PEOPLE TO HATE AMERICA HURR DURR), that's all it merits.

Don't post garbage, and people won't roll their eyes at your worthless garbage posts.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Get ready for a firestorm from the right wing congress. Or maybe they'll let this one slide so it won't be so obvious that they still will not work with the president.
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At this time, McConnell says he is not against the nomination. He just wants to wait until the new Congress is sworn in before considering her nomination.

Repeat after me...... Lame duck Congress. It's always been that way. LOL.
 
Kobie said:
Given today's political climate, some hard and fast federal regulations regarding gerrymandering would have to go into effect before I'd even remotely consider the possibility of repealing the 17th amendment.
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If anything, each state would deal with that-and that is a govt "closer" to the people so I think its better.
 
a351 said:
In your opinion perhaps. Assuming that minorities/women appointees are simply token hires isn't a good look. Kinda flies in the face of that color blind society thing.
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picking someone because of their race is bad. and Holder was an OK line attorney but not one of the stars

same with this woman

she was not one of the superstar US attorneys (rarely are US attorneys superstars-they are generally political hacks or friends of politicians) or Assistant US attorneys or DOJ prosecutors
 
Kobie said:
Well, when you spout off your usual partisan trash (DURR THE LEFT IS TEACHING PEOPLE TO HATE AMERICA HURR DURR), that's all it merits.

Don't post garbage, and people won't roll their eyes at your worthless garbage posts.
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I hope one day you earn the tools to discuss intelligently. But that day isn't here yet.
 
US Conservative said:
One day, Kobie. One day.
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Maybe one day you'll dial down the hackishness to a reasonable level, but I doubt that day will EVER come.

Are you going to stalk me around the forum again today?
 
Fearandloathing said:
I know Campbell's soup is the best. I have never had any other. Therefore all the others have to be ****.

But, I will add this as I did some time ago with a group of youth's bemoaning our issues here...."When was the last all candidates meeting you went to and made a fuss?" What has always amazed me is that I learned my stuff in America. We linked arms and faced bayonets and we got our asses "arrested" - they drive you ten blocks and let you go. And then I look at the birth of the Tea Party. All they had to do was meet and the liberal press went ape****.

At the time of the government shut down i asked what would happen if every Vietnam vet occupied a federal park in DC?
What would happen if 50 to 100 people wearing signs hat said "no more lies" showed up at both their local nominating meetings to influence the vote. With that I am reminded of some people in rural BC who were fed up with the choices so about 50 of them helped get their guy nominated at the Liberal party event, then turned around and got the same guy elected at the NDP meeting a week later. It didn't stick but it sure woke people up.

Then there was my great motto of the 60's "suit up, show up, throw something" today it's cheap shots but you get the idea.
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Yep, it all boils down to getting involved. Voting is the average American involvement in our political process. No more, no less. But in any presidential election only a bit more than half of Americans even bother to vote. So that mean 45-50% depending on the presidential election do not get involved at all. Then around 38% average in midterms bother to vote, that mean 62% of all Americans do not get involved. Fewer than 10% bother to vote in a primary which picks the two candidates that will face each other in November. But a whole lot of Americans will bitch about their choices.

But so far those who are involved only voted. How many actually worked on a campaign outside of putting a bumper sticker on their car. I think for most Americans, non-involvement outside of bitching is their motto.
 
Kobie said:
Maybe one day you'll dial down the hackishness to a reasonable level, but I doubt that day will EVER come.

Are you going to stalk me around the forum again today?
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Kobie, I dont stalk anyone-its not conducive to meaningful discourse. I think perhaps you overestimate the brilliance of your signature eye-roll emoticon.
 
US Conservative said:
Kobie, I dont stalk anyone-its not conducive to meaningful discourse. I think perhaps you overestimate the brilliance of your signature eye-roll emoticon.
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Leave me the **** alone.
 
Kobie said:
Given today's political climate, some hard and fast federal regulations regarding gerrymandering would have to go into effect before I'd even remotely consider the possibility of repealing the 17th amendment.
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How can things be worse? Don't answer that. Because as soon as I say that, things gets worse. I take it you mean gerrymandering of state legislative districts. Congressional gerrymandering would be irrelevant to choosing a senator. I would love to see gerrymandering outlawed. Each state has the power to do exactly that, but won't. You see the party in power in the state uses gerrymandering to ensure they stay in power.
 
Perotista said:
Yep, it all boils down to getting involved. Voting is the average American involvement in our political process. No more, no less.
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Nonsense. People learn about platforms through the news and other sources and discuss various political issues at home, the office and during recreation. I can't go a day without a political conversation initiated by someone, even at a place like a bar.

Why do you discount ground level education and interaction?
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't care. Liberals have used the racist card so many times it has no meaning anymore. And yeah, she was picked to be US attorney by both Clinton and Obama because she is black. And that's why she is being picked USAG There are at least 40 people I can personally think of at DOJ who are top flight prosecutors. AT this level its political. There has only been one AG in years who was actually the best available lawyer for the JOb. It was acting AG Peter Keisler Ashcroft wasn't bad. Bill Barr was pretty top flight as was Carter's last AG Benjamin Civillettti
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You mean Peter can't look at a tit Ashcroft? :lamo
 
Perotista said:
How can things be worse? Don't answer that. Because as soon as I say that, things gets worse. I take it you mean gerrymandering of state legislative districts. Congressional gerrymandering would be irrelevant to choosing a senator. I would love to see gerrymandering outlawed. Each state has the power to do exactly that, but won't. You see the party in power in the state uses gerrymandering to ensure they stay in power.
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Yes, I do. And I know the states won't, which is why the feds need to step in. Gerrymandering is the single greatest and most prevalent tool of disenfranchisement that exists.
 
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