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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    All of those reasons are correct, and I will add ennui and a sense of world weariness. Look at Obama. He attracted a huge base of voters who had never voted before and now? Angry and disillusioned again by empty promises and lies.

    At the time and still sometimes, the left comes at me for pointing out "the lie", "if you can keep your plan...." But when you consider a political science fact, that less than .3% of the population will ever tell anyone why they didn't vote that lie stands as a crucible. The new Obama wave crashed and died on that lie.

    The two party system isn't really a two party system as they really aren't any different, the money pretty much comes from the same place and "follow the money is the greatest if not only truth to come out of Watergate. But it is the myth of a two party system that is killing you. For the record the difference in platforms between Obama and Romney was about 2% according to some analysts.

    What else I see wrong is the declaration of either Democrat or Republican when registering. True I guess you can say "independent", but to me declating anything ios a violation of my secret ballot right. It's stupid and only feeds the big machinery.

    For the bold, there is a message there for anyone willing to analyze the results. Americans have no trouble giving their faith to a president, but after a few years they tell him "cool it"....

    They don't want runaway policies., To me they are screaming "work together you assholes" but the politicos only hear "war!"

    Change comes by degrees and is usually the result of a small group of people who have no hope of success. In the last provincial election we went up against the old guard, the tried and true party hacks who had been rotting like a corpse and stole the nomination simply by selling memberships and getting more people to the nominating meeting than they did. We won by about 325 to 220. It was supposed to be hopeless, but we though "what's to lose?"

    We lost to the incumbent party in a socialist riding...but we narrowed the margin of victory and let them know they were in a fight. I have had two winners working as a writer and that one loss. The loss, going from three people to winning the nomination in a losing fight was the most fun I've had with my clothes on in a good 15 years.
    On our two party system it has been put two way: 1. There's not a dimes worth of difference between the two parties and 2. In the United States you have but one political party, but it has two wings. The Republican wing and the Democratic wing.

    And yes you are right about the money, many corporations, Wall Street Firms, Lobbyist etc donate to both parties. Oh they usually give the incumbents more money than the challengers, but that is because the incumbent usually wins. As for registration, in Georgia one just registers to vote, there is no party affiliation. I like that. Registration via party down here is for use in primary elections in those states that have closed primaries.

    Change, back in the 90's I worked hard for change. I worked for Ross Perot. It was quite a battle. Ross told me something that guides me now, he said: Take a couple of steps backwards and put cotton or ear plugs in your ears to drown out the rhetoric. Just watch how the two parties govern and you will see they basically govern the same. It is only the rhetoric that is polar opposites.

    He was right.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    She is the person that Obama has selected to fill the job and she is certainly qualified for it.
    Care to explain the incompetencies of all of Obama's other appointees ?

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh. Well I think you are a fool .

    I'm sure you can find lots of black women who meet the minimum qualifications of the job. The problem being that that is the standard this adminsitration looks for, rather than looking for the person who would be best at the job.
    I believe anyone Obama picks you will have a problem with, part of who you are.

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I believe anyone Obama picks you will have a problem with, part of who you are.
    I think it has more to do with Obama's track record of appointing incompetent people.

    Lynch was originally appointed by Clinton, very likely an affirmative action appointment. She was fired by G.W. Bush who had many smart highly qualified and competent blacks working with in his administration, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, etc.

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    we really need a sarcasm emoticon.


    I totally agree, that would be very useful.

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Care to explain the incompetencies of all of Obama's other appointees ?


    They are no more incompetent than the fools that Bush appointed. If there was a Republican in the White House you'd be applauding their work.

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post

    Change, back in the 90's I worked hard for change. I worked for Ross Perot. It was quite a battle. Ross told me something that guides me now, he said: Take a couple of steps backwards and put cotton or ear plugs in your ears to drown out the rhetoric. Just watch how the two parties govern and you will see they basically govern the same. It is only the rhetoric that is polar opposites.

    He was right.
    I voted for Perot. Have always wondered what it would have been like having him as president. He was point on with that observation.

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    They are no more incompetent than the fools that Bush appointed. If there was a Republican in the White House you'd be applauding their work.
    When it comes to the Office of Attorney General, I agree. Bush's appointees shredded the Constitution and then pissed on it for all intents and purposes

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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Did you know that except for SCOTUS judges, the senate rule change on filibusters only applied to federal judge nominations?

    The repubs could still block her nomination.
    Did you know that you're wrong?

    Since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid altered the chamberís filibuster rules in late 2013, the Republicans canít use the filibuster to block an Attorney General nominee during that time period

    How the Senate will confirm a new Attorney General


    The simple fact of the matter is this: Senate Republicans can holler about how President Obama will be ramming his pick through a lame-duck Senate, but venting is just about all they'll be able to do about it. In a sense, the battle over a new AG was fought a year ago, when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid changed the rules for executive-branch nominations.



    Because of his trigger of the so-called "nuclear option," there will be no possibility of a GOP filibuster of Obama's pick. And all it will take to confirm his choice will be a simple majority vote.


    GOP Can't Stop a Lame-Duck Attorney General Pick - NationalJournal.com
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    Re: Obama expected to nominate Loretta Lynch to be attorney general: CNN

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I believe anyone Obama picks you will have a problem with, part of who you are.
    not really. I don't have a particular problem (for a single example) with General Dempsey. My problem is that the selection process for critical posts should not be driven by race and gender.

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