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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Excellent. So I can ignore Obamas job approval rating because you didn't ask everybody. Also, what are statistics?
    Obama and stats are highly over-rated.

    ask everyone the question if you want real answers.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Obama and stats are highly over-rated.

    ask everyone the question if you want real answers.
    So, literally no poll in history has ever been useful. Fun notion.

    Wrong, but fun.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

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    You don't have to worry about endorsing Christianity. It isn't demanding state endorsement like homosexuals are. Sanction is given, not taken.
    BS. Christian interference in the secular world is the only reason this has ever been an issue

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, literally no poll in history has ever been useful. Fun notion.

    Wrong, but fun.
    I've taken a couple of those polls...the way they're worded is biased and bogus.

    Why do you have such a problem with a general vote?
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I've taken a couple of those polls...the way they're worded is biased and bogus.

    Why do you have such a problem with a general vote?

    Here is the Gallup wording: "Do you think marriages between same-sex couples should or should not be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages?"



    Yep, boy that look biased and bogus.



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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I've taken a couple of those polls...the way they're worded is biased and bogus.

    Why do you have such a problem with a general vote?
    Oh well I guess your personal experience with "a couple of those polls" invalidates all of statistics, and all polls ever. Well, unless they say something favoring Republicans.

    As for general votes, I only have a problem with voting in something unconstitutional. If it violates the constitution, I don't care if 100% of the population votes for it. You want to ban same-sex marriage? You need a constitutional amendment to that effect. Until you do, the constitution will continue to trump your ever-fading will of the people.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Here is the Gallup wording: "Do you think marriages between same-sex couples should or should not be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages?"



    Yep, boy that look biased and bogus.



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    It is. They could have simply asked, "do you think same sex couples should be allowed to marry?" Yes or No. The rest is all superfluous steering.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It is. They could have simply asked, "do you think same sex couples should be allowed to marry?" Yes or No. The rest is all superfluous steering.
    Which part is steering?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh well I guess your personal experience with "a couple of those polls" invalidates all of statistics, and all polls ever. Well, unless they say something favoring Republicans.

    As for general votes, I only have a problem with voting in something unconstitutional. If it violates the constitution, I don't care if 100% of the population votes for it. You want to ban same-sex marriage? You need a constitutional amendment to that effect. Until you do, the constitution will continue to trump your ever-fading will of the people.
    Well then we disagree. We'll see what happens in actuality.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which part is steering?
    All the rest of the dressing except for the central question. I was clear about that.

    Btw, it also matters where they poll. Polls taken in urban environs are going to turn out differently than those taken in rural environs. The result can easily be steered by polling heavily in one or the other. Pollsters know this.
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