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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And your suspicions are absolutely meaningless. Reality is that the majority, especially of young people, are for allowing same sex couples to marry. Just because you live in a state of denial doesn't mean the rest of us do.
    You have no way of proving that to be factual. [relying on the opinions of mush-minds is never a good idea]
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You have no way of proving that to be factual. [relying on the opinions of mush-minds is never a good idea]
    Meh, time will tell.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Your God has no authority over me at all, not while I'm here on Earth. When I die, if it turns out you were right (which I highly doubt), then I will deal with the consequences of that. In reality though, you are trusting the words of men long dead, not God.
    Color me surprised.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which is not the same thing that was put out earlier, that said they were discharged because their illnesses were no longer considered mental illnesses, but rather the people didn't care or didn't have the money to deal with them, just like I said in the beginning. It had to do with a lack of money, not a change in the philosophy of dealing with mental illness.
    It supports what I said earlier about most of those being released having serious mental health issues, and refutes your claim to the contrary that many were women who simply refused to do housework or insisted on wearing pants.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And yet the SCOTUS went far beyond just deciding to overturn the ruling that put the Lovings in jail, including requiring the state of Virginia, and all other states that had bans on interracial marriage at that time, to recognize all interracial marriages. The SCOTUS did not have to make such a broad ruling, except they could since the laws that did not recognize the Lovings as married due to their races, regardless of whether they were treated as criminals or not, violated the US Constitution.
    How do you envision they could have ruled that would have had a much more narrow impact? The 14th amendment only applies to the Lovings?

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

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    I've seen far more than 'kissing' in public. IMO, any overt physical act should be reserved for privacy, no matter the sexual orientation.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's the propaganda being put forward. I suspect it's bogus.

    Therefore I'm confidant America would vote against total legalization.
    Marriage equality won every single ballot measure in 2012. The GOP abandoned efforts towards its 2014 ballots.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

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    The party of freedom, people! Freedom is earned, and even then only the freedom to do as I demand!
    Freedom ain't free buddy.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Marriage equality won every single ballot measure in 2012. The GOP abandoned efforts towards its 2014 ballots.
    That means very little.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That means very little.

    So it means little that a decade ago that bans on SSCM passed with 23-76% margins of victory, that in 2008/2009 Prop 8 and Question 1 (California and Maine respectively) squeaked by where only a 2.5% change in the vote would have changed the outcome, and that in 2012 4-ballot initiatives appeared on the General election ballots and the pro-Marriage Equality side won in each case...

    Those facts mean very little.


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