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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    this now creates a conflict with other circuits and pretty much guarantees a supreme court case.

    The U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeal, which upheld same-sex marriage bans in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee, issued its decision three months after hearing same-sex marriage cases from all four states. In each of those states, federal judges had struck down same-sex marriage bans on constitutional grounds.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    If you people on the left don't want the people voting on the issues then we should completely do away with voting on anything......
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

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    One for the good guys.
    This makes it more likely SSM will be the law of the land.

    So yes... in that way it's one for the good guys.

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    If you people on the left don't want the people voting on the issues then we should completely do away with voting on anything......
    You don't get to vote away other peoples freedoms.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Cancer appears naturally but, I'd hope it's not normal.
    Cancer appears in nature, but it's not normal, although it's normal in the sense many here are using the word normal because it isn't rare - it's actually an abnormality in the gene/cell structure that causes the body to attack itself. I don't think any scientist is working day and night to try to find a cure for homosexuality yet hundreds of thousands of medical researchers and doctors spend their entire professional lives trying to find a way to eradicate the various forms of cancer.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You cannot belittle marriage as just being a state stamp of approval.
    In the legal sense, as it's currently being argued, that's exactly what it is. Marriage is marriage with or without the state stamp of approval. The only thing that changes is that wonderful package of goodies and political bribes that come to those who hold the state stamp of approval.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This makes it more likely SSM will be the law of the land.

    So yes... in that way it's one for the good guys.



    You don't get to vote away other peoples freedoms.
    If it's considered to be vile, disgusting and/ or criminal...we certainly do get to vote it away. That'z freedom.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If it's considered to be vile, disgusting and/ or criminal.
    Your reasons for viewing that way are your own.

    There is nothing criminal about homosexuality.

    You are still free to view it that way.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It's a good question whether these so-called "harms" are overshadowed by the good that society receives from maintaining traditional marriage. I think the clear answer is "yes", despite his fears about the "harms" that affect the children of homosexual couples since homosexual unions don't produce children.
    There are hundreds of thousands of children in this country CURRENTLY being raised by same-sex couples. You are causing harm to them by denying their parents the right to marriage for what perceived benefit?

    I find it interesting how ignorant your side tends to be that the choice to deny same-sex marriage is not some abstraction. It has real effects on real people, their families, and their children. Help me understand how you justify to yourself this cost you put on their families.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    One for the good guys.
    Why do you hate children?

    You realize the plaintiffs are a same-sex couple raising kids who are denied the benefits of married parents. Why do you hate their family? What did they do to you to be classified as "bad guys"?

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It seems that even the judges in this case could not agree what question they were addressing and for us what question they were or should have addressed will depend on how we feel about the ruling.
    We were talking about Loving, and the opinion of that court was unanimous.

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