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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's a voluntary private contract with terms according to the constituents. You've never heard of a pre-nup?

    When private citizens wish to enter into a legally binding contract, it is state business to see to the facilitation and enforcement of that contract.
    The contract we speak of is a government contract as it is crafted by the government with terms that are up to change whenever the government desires it.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The contract we speak of is a government contract as it is crafted by the government with terms that are up to change whenever the government desires it.
    No, the terms are set by a pre-nup or one is welcome to accept default terms. No terms are forced upon anyone.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, the terms are set by a pre-nup or one is welcome to accept default terms. No terms are forced upon anyone.
    Really?

    So can someone waive their right to alimony in a pre-up?
    Can a pre-nup include child support or child custody issues?

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Really?

    So can someone waive their right to alimony in a pre-up?
    Can a pre-nup include child support or child custody issues?
    Yes..

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes..
    Wrong on both accounts.

    You can not waive your alimony rights with the use of a pre-nup nor can child support or child custody issues be included in a pre-nup.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Wrong on both accounts.

    You can not waive your alimony rights with the use of a pre-nup nor can child support or child custody issues be included in a pre-nup.
    Remember that your state has laws that govern who gets what in a divorce. With a prenup you can bypass a lot of these laws by agreeing yourselves on who will get what. While some states prohibit it, other states even allow you to decide whether you will be entitled to alimony or not. Check your state's law or with a family law attorney to clarify this issue when drafting the prenuptial agreement.
    What Can and Cannot be Included in Prenuptial Agreements - FindLaw

    Child custody is up to the court. I suggest making arrangements with ones spouse. If ones spouse turns out to be a monster and screws one over, then one has poor judgement and gets what one deserves.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What Can and Cannot be Included in Prenuptial Agreements - FindLaw

    Child custody is up to the court. I suggest making arrangements with ones spouse. If ones spouse turns out to be a monster and screws one over, then one has poor judgement and gets what one deserves.
    Your link says most states don't allow people to include the issues I brought up, so I suppose its up to you to find the exception to the rule.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Your link says most states don't allow people to include the issues I brought up, so I suppose its up to you to find the exception to the rule.
    Some have poor judgement in choosing a partner and poor judgement in establishing a pre-nup. But hey, stupid people suffer... that's life. No one forces anyone to enter a marriage contract.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Some have poor judgement in choosing a partner and poor judgement in establishing a pre-nup. But hey, stupid people suffer... that's life. No one forces anyone to enter a marriage contract.
    The only state that I'm aware of that allows you to waive your alimony rights is California, and well, that is the last place I want to be. Being around that many liberals would be a living hell for me.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If the government wasn't providing benefit to taxpayers based on them holding a piece of paper issued by the government, gay people wouldn't be interested in "redefining" marriage. It's only the government definition that's being "redefined".
    Then it doesn't have anything to do with civil rights or any sort of discrimination. It's simply more government over-reach.
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