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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Since when does the "will of the people" define the rights, benefits and privileges of others? Thanks for endorsing mob tyranny.
    Since when is a couple liberal Dbags in black robes wiser the millions of MI voters?

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Since when does the "will of the people" define the rights, benefits and privileges of others? Thanks for endorsing mob tyranny.
    So I guess you support tyranny of the minority?

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    One can appreciate the ruling which in effect says that courts should interpret law established by legislatures and not establish law from the bench.

    That said, I'm incredibly tired of the whole debate. I don't give a rat's ass about who marries whom and how they want to do it. Get the government out of this mess and let people live their own lives as they see fit - want a church/religious marriage, find a church to marry you - want a civil marriage, visit a lawyer, create a contract, sign off on it and you're done.

    Government is far too intrusive in the personal lives of citizens and this nonsense is a prime example of it.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    If they don't get to decide, then who does?
    The people most certainly don't get to to decide the rights of others. That's the very essence of mob tyranny.

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    A judge, two maybe three of them? Aren't "they" people too?

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    Well, let's see what the role of the courts is shall we?

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    Often, courts are called on to uphold limitations on the government. They protect against abuses by all branches of government. They protect minorities of all types from the majority, and protect the rights of people who can't protect themselves. They also embody notions of equal treatment and fair play. The courts and the protections of the law are open to everybody.
    Again, the role of the courts is not to uphold the "will of the people". It is to uphold what is lawful. Standing behind the courts when they make a ruling based on 'what people want' is nothing more than supporting mob tyranny.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Since when does the "will of the people" define the rights, benefits and privileges of others? Thanks for endorsing mob tyranny.
    Were not these same men in black robes OK with slavery at one point in time??? You don't need to answer that.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    So I guess you support tyranny of the minority?
    Lmao, you're desperate for an argument. Legalizing gay marriage has absolutely no impact on the majority other than hurt feelings and having to adhere to non-discrimination laws. It restricts no rights whatsoever. Don't like gay marriage? Don't get married to someone of the same gender.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Were not these same men in black robes OK with slavery at one point in time??? You don't need to answer that.
    I don't think they are that old

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Were not these same men in black robes OK with slavery at one point in time??? You don't need to answer that.
    You do realize that Dred Scott is regarded as a terrible decision because it was made in order to uphold the will of the (Southern) people. Yes? I don't think you actually thought that argument through too well.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'm just wondering when AGENTJ will come in here and concede that this "law" is now fact.. Of course it's an opinion like all the other laws in the land, but it will give me a smile in any event watching how he tries to reacquaint himself with a shred of consistency.


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    It is factual that this three-judge appeals court panel ruled to uphold a ban. I'm really not sure what you're getting at here.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Were not these same men in black robes OK with slavery at one point in time??? You don't need to answer that.
    How long do you think supreme court justices live!?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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