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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the action is gay marriage. merely being gay is not the trigger to these laws
    It is...we can't help who we fall in love with. This in turn leads to a desire to marry. If not gay, the action wouldn't follow

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How is it not?
    not to mention thats the weakest counter i have ever heard, anything could be added to it, its not very well thought out at all


    "the action is gay marriage (employment, running for office, furthering one's education, shopping, getting a drivers licenses, voting). merely being gay (having a race, gender, age, disability etc) is not the trigger to these laws


    I dont discriminate against blacks for being black I discriminate against them because they want to work at my company, the trigger is them wanting a job at my business
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I understand not everyone believes 'protected class' should exist, but so long as it does, the lack of sexuality being among it is certainly noticed.

    "Faking" sexuality to what end? Enter a sham marriage or lie repeatedly to prying coworkers? Conjure a fake girlfriend and then kill her off when the sports team suspects something's up? It's not easy, actually incredibly stressful, and just caters to prejudice.
    Not to mention there were light skinned black people who "passed" as white in the past in order to get around all kinds of segregationist laws.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I understand not everyone believes 'protected class' should exist, but so long as it does, the lack of sexuality being among it is certainly noticed.

    "Faking" sexuality to what end? Enter a sham marriage or lie repeatedly to prying coworkers? Conjure a fake girlfriend and then kill her off when the sports team suspects something's up? It's not easy, actually incredibly stressful, and just caters to prejudice.
    that lack wont be there for much longer, equality is coming

    just like i knew the dominoes would quickly fall with DOMA simply by default and design of the system this too will hit the gas and its right around the corner.

    SO happy its gonna happen in my life time.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Since when is a couple liberal Dbags in black robes wiser the millions of MI voters?
    Lived in MI my whole life and i'm all too aware a retarded gorilla has greater mental faculty than most MI voters. I go to class and work with people from around the country and world and all of them impress me a hell of a lot more, even by age 20, than almost any michigander i've met. Those single moms and their bimonthly rotating boyfriend, with the "Jesus not obama" handwritten sign pinned to their front yard tree (which falls on the trailer's roof during a stiff breeze) couldn't reference a single court decision other than Roe v Wade. Judges at least are *educated in the law*, unlike 98% of this state.

    Even so, that ballot was 10 freaking years ago. Yeah, it's made me question the wisdom of near universal adult suffrage, but there's no chance that even the neanderthal MI voters will oppose SSM in perpetuity.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not to mention thats the weakest counter i have ever heard, anything could be added to it, its not very well thought out at all


    "the action is gay marriage (employment, running for office, furthering one's education, shopping, getting a drivers licenses, voting). merely being gay (having a race, gender, age, disability etc) is not the trigger to these laws


    I dont discriminate against blacks for being black I discriminate against them because they want to work at my company, the trigger is them wanting a job at my business
    Yeah it does seem like an easy way out for any discrimination. Reminds me of "Love the sinner, hate the sin." The distinction is irrelevant when the intrinsic characteristic leads directly to the action

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Yeah it does seem like an easy way out for any discrimination. Reminds me of "Love the sinner, hate the sin." The distinction is irrelevant when the intrinsic characteristic leads directly to the action(bigotry/discrimination/infringing on rights)
    100% correct but it makes some feel better to use different words
    now to be fair to turtle though i dont think he was doing that i just think his lawyer reflexes got the best of him and he spoke before thinking it all the way through
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    100% correct but it makes some feel better to use different words
    now to be fair to turtle though i dont think he was doing that i just think his lawyer reflexes got the best of him and he spoke before thinking it all the way through
    Yeah seems to be making a legal case on behalf of a judge he respects overall

    Problem is it comes across "I support SSM but here's reason after reason to not allow it."

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I don't think anyone is questioning what you accept. The problem is you have no rational basis for denying same-sex couples marriage licenses. And the judge ignored that largely
    You either didn't read the opinion or had a difficult time understanding it. This is an area he talks about in detail, recognizing "at least two" arguments that satisfy rational basis review.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    What action does a person have to take to be gay or straight? Do I have to do anything specific to fall in love with someone of the same sex or opposite sex?
    I dunno, but unless you do something, the concept becomes fairly meaningless - the tree that makes no noise because there is nobody there to hear it.

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