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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It seems to me the majority wanted to force a circuit break. It is hard for me to accept they would wait until two days after the election and issue a ruling with such lackluster reasoning. I am the biggest advocate for same-sex marriage on this forum and I could have written a better argument for same-sex marriage bans. This wreaks of political maneuvering. They wanted to force SCOTUS to take this up sooner rather than later.
    I don't get what the election has to do with it, since most of even the repub candidates ran away from this issue now.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Ask yourself whether you think someone as smart as Sutton is incapable of discerning differences between polygamy and same-sex marriage. Or maybe, he is savvy enough to recognize that SCOTUS is intentionally dragging its feet long enough on the issue by refusing to take up the issue so that same-sex marriage has been instituted in as many states as possible and become as accepted and commonplace as possible before they do. If he is a diehard federalist it would make sense he would want to force their hand as quickly as possible.
    It's already legal in what, 34 states? That's pretty similar to the situation prior to Loving v Virginia. It's too late for him to make any difference, and i can't think of much that's more contradictory than a "diehard federalist" federal judge.

    If he were so savvy as you theorize, his circuit would not have been overturned now 25 of 26 times by SCOTUS. I'm only struggling to figure out whose lobotomy was more debilitating, his or scalia's.
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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Decisions issued by this court were reversed 25 out of the 26 times that they were reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court since Oct., 2008, a higher frequency than any appeals court.

    I predict that this ruling will suffer the same fate. SSM is coming nation-wide in the USA, wait and see.




    "Tolerance is giving to every other human being the same rights that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
    1) that statistic is true but it doesn't tell the whole story

    2) if the court is going to clearly sustain a decision, they won't take it up

    so unlike appellate courts hearing district court appeals (which circuit courts have no choice but to take) when the USSC takes a case, it is a sign that at least some of the justices seek to reverse it

    3) a better indication is how many requests for cert to the USSC are granted for each circuit



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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Since when is a couple liberal Dbags in black robes wiser the millions of MI voters?


    When they're sitting on the U.S.Supreme Court.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I don't get what the election has to do with it, since most of even the repub candidates ran away from this issue now.
    Sadly, about a month ago I told my friends that the decision would be issued within a few days after the election. It became obvious when it took them months. The Majority did not want this ruling to be used to drum up the liberal base is my guess.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Were not these same men in black robes OK with slavery at one point in time???
    You don't need to answer that.


    As time moves on law in the USA changes to reflect the will of the people.

    Right now most people in the USA support SSM.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You do realize that Dred Scott is regarded as a terrible decision because it was made in order to uphold the will of the (Southern) people
    . Yes? I don't think you actually thought that argument through too well.


    That was a long time ago. All of those people are dead now and their ideas are buried with them.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    It's already legal in what, 34 states? That's pretty similar to the situation prior to Loving v Virginia. It's too late for him to make any difference, and i can't think of much that's more contradictory than a "diehard federalist" federal judge.

    If he were so savvy as you theorize, his circuit would not have been overturned now 25 of 26 times by SCOTUS. I'm only struggling to figure out whose lobotomy was more debilitating, his or scalia's.
    You really think the man is intellectually incapable of discerning any significant difference between polygamy and same sex marriage? Somehow it seems like a stretch to me. Harvard would take back his degree.

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How long do you think supreme court justices live!?


    Until they die?

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    Re: Appeals court upholds laws against gay marriage in Michigan, 3 other states

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) that statistic is true but it doesn't tell the whole story

    2) if the court is going to clearly sustain a decision, they won't take it up

    so unlike appellate courts hearing district court appeals (which circuit courts have no choice but to take) when the USSC takes a case, it is a sign that at least some of the justices seek to reverse it

    3) a better indication is how many requests for cert to the USSC are granted for each circuit
    Which is why the fact they punted on the other appeals completely reveals how they'll rule on this one. That the 6th in this instance ruled so clearly in defiance of this suggests they have little regard for SCOTUS, or the constitution for that matter. I'm going out on a limb that 25 is well above average

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