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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Any 'power' she has remains within a group, and she serves in no leadership position.

    You can relax, mate. Your life is not in her hands.
    So her power is symbolic?

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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "I'm also curious how she has anyone's "life" in her hands? I have friends in the NH state legislature, and they have next to no power to do anything, much less control people's lives or have them in their hands."
    "Don't worry everyone! I know she's just 18, but relax, she has no power to meaningfully affect us in any way!" If she has "next to no" power, how does she plan on doing this? If she has "next to no" power, how does she plan on doing this?
    You appear to be confused in the differences between 'power' and 'influence'. She now has the 'influence' to perhaps win others over to her point of view but does not have the 'power' to act unilaterally..

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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "I'm also curious how she has anyone's "life" in her hands? I have friends in the NH state legislature, and they have next to no power to do anything, much less control people's lives or have them in their hands."

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    "Don't worry everyone! I know she's just 18, but relax, she has no power to meaningfully affect us in any way!"

    From her website:




    If she has "next to no" power, how does she plan on doing this?



    If she has "next to no" power, how does she plan on doing this?

    Go to Issues - dev and you'll see some other issues she wants to tackle. How, if she has next to no power, can she do this? Because reading through her website, she certainly seems to be under the impression that she'll have the power to effect change, one that directly affects her constituency. Is she wrong?
    None of what you quoted and posted here changes the fact that I never once said what you claim I said in post #85.

    You just agreed that her age and lack of experience problematic.
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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So her power is symbolic?
    Perhaps this will help.

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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    The sad thing is, there's nothing she could say or do that would make her seem less out-of-touch or knowledgeable than half the people in Washington.

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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The more local the politics, the more directly they affect your lives. Anybody who belongs to a HOA (which is about as local as it gets) knows exactly what I'm talking about.
    Can you name the members of the city council and county board of supervisors where you live?
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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So her power is symbolic?
    There are 100 members in the WV House. What power will she hold over the other 99?
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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm still thinking about this girl despite how long its been since I found out about her being elected. Which is very unusual for me. What she did was amazing.

    I do have a few questions for all those that voted for her though...and this is in no way meant to belittle this woman in the slightest....but...Do those voters KNOW that this girl is only 18? Fresh out of high school? Is this an indication of what "low information voters" actually means? Or did they actually know and actually like this young woman this much? Or did they know but just not care because they absolutely hated what the other guy stood for?

    I'm still shaking my head at this. In amazement, not condemnation.
    This was my thought too, but could this be a good thing? A case where people are voting for somebodies policies, rather than their face? I don't care if somebody is 'low information' on somebodies personal information, as long as they are 'high-info' on the policies? Of course this is an extreme case, as age can affect someones suitability for positions of authority, but this is an interesting case study of whether we vote for the politician or the policy. I'd love to see some kind of poll to the voters to glean some data but I don't think many would admit to not knowing she was 18!

    As far as the candidate herself, fair play to her and all her efforts, although I must admit my first thought was nepotism (how many teenagers can hire public affairs companies). I'm pretty much diametrically opposed to her views and think it's a shame that one of the tenets of our youngest elected politician is that "it's ok to have the same views as our grandparents" (seems a bit of a waste too me, what's the point of having a young politician if she thinks like an old one). But of course this is just making me sound bitter, she absolutely smashed it in the elections and I hope that her appointment can give some of the other politicians (including her defeated opponent) a sorely needed kick up the backside.
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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    I'm pretty much diametrically opposed to her views and think it's a shame that one of the tenets of our youngest elected politician is that "it's ok to have the same views as our grandparents" (seems a bit of a waste too me, what's the point of having a young politician if she thinks like an old one).
    Because there are some 'views' which deserve to be remembered and respected. Many of them are in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and other agreements and literature written centuries ago.

    Opinions or political movements can come into fashion and, often after an unsuccessful and bloody trial, soon disappear among others into 'the dustbin of history'. We can learn a lot from those who came before us, just as succeeding generations may learn from our follies.

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    Re: Saira Blair Becomes Youngest Elected Politician in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Because there are some 'views' which deserve to be remembered and respected. Many of them are in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and other agreements and literature written centuries ago.

    Opinions or political movements can come into fashion and, often after an unsuccessful and bloody trial, soon disappear among others into 'the dustbin of history'. We can learn a lot from those who came before us, just as succeeding generations may learn from our follies.
    I agree that many old views should be remembered and respected, however this rememberance and respect should be reasoned, not just there for the sake of it. As many have noted here, one of the great things about having young people in politics is that they can rock the boat a little, mix things up with youthful enthusiasm and passion (not to say that these qualities are necessarily exclusive to youth). I don't see that being the case much in Blairs appointment, which IMO is a shame.
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