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Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

d0gbreath said:
So, while I've been contemplating the hard losses for the Democratic Party in this years election, I came upon the winning of an issue that I'm personally involved in.


I spoke out at a city council meeting a year and a half ago when Atmos Gas Corp wanted to erect a 285 foot tower that they claimed was only for radio communications. Coincidentally, that is the same height as a fracking drill tower. They even said that it would not have guide wires. That led me to believe that it was going to be planted quite deep into the ground. My house would have been within 500 feet of the tower.



You lose some and you win some.
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Good win !!!!

From your Murphy, Texas neighbor
 
j-mac said:
So, are you against all groups that form associations of like minded legislators? Or just those that don't line up with your ideology? I think the answer is clear, but none the less, would like to hear you say it.
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ALEC is a particularly bad organizations because it is extremely well funded by a small group of people pushing their business interests over the public good and they favor measures and tactics that deceive and undermine democratic (representaional) policy making.
 
d0gbreath said:
I didn't tell them any lies. I exposed the lie about the 285 ft. communications tower without guide wires that Atmos Energy wanted to erect.

I might be a little bit hero in the hood.
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That has what to do with fracing?
 
apdst said:
That has what to do with fracing?
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They said that they were going to only use the tower for radio communications. I figure they would put an antenna on top, use it for radio communications for a couple of weeks, then think to themselves, "Hey, we could frack from that tower, now that I think about it!" LOL

I was not fooled for a moment. My neighbors had a block party to fight a proposed sewage treatment center that they heard about in a rumor. They were incorrect. I was on a bike run that day and couldn't attend the party, but I saw their signs at the main entrance to our kingdom.

Hell, I've told you too much now and you're just going to be confused. Let's keep this simple:

The citizens of Denton, Texas voted to ban hydraulic fracturing within the city limits.

You watch out for your city and we'll watch out for ours.
 
d0gbreath said:
They said that they were going to only use the tower for radio communications. I figure they would put an antenna on top, use it for radio communications for a couple of weeks, then think to themselves, "Hey, we could frack from that tower, now that I think about it!" LOL

I was not fooled for a moment. My neighbors had a block party to fight a proposed sewage treatment center that they heard about in a rumor. They were incorrect. I was on a bike run that day and couldn't attend the party, but I saw their signs at the main entrance to our kingdom.

Hell, I've told you too much now and you're just going to be confused. Let's keep this simple:

The citizens of Denton, Texas voted to ban hydraulic fracturing within the city limits.

You watch out for your city and we'll watch out for ours.
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Use a radio tower to frac? You're kiddinng...right?
 
apdst said:
Use a radio tower to frac? You're kiddinng...right?
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I knew I told you too much to process.

They wanted to build a fracking tower under the guise of it being a radio comm tower.
 
d0gbreath said:
I knew I told you too much to process.

They wanted to build a fracking tower under the guise of it being a radio comm tower.
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At this point I'm wondering if you inow what frac'ing is, much less how it's accomplished, which begs the larger question: how can you possibly know it's bad? Some tree-hugger blog told you it is?
 
d0gbreath said:
I knew I told you too much to process.

They wanted to build a fracking tower under the guise of it being a radio comm tower.
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This is what a frac job looks like. Note the absence of anything remotely resembling a communications tower.

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I don't think you should frack in a bar either.




At least have the decency to go out to your car or something...
 
d0gbreath said:
So, while I've been contemplating the hard losses for the Democratic Party in this years election, I came upon the winning of an issue that I'm personally involved in.


I spoke out at a city council meeting a year and a half ago when Atmos Gas Corp wanted to erect a 285 foot tower that they claimed was only for radio communications. Coincidentally, that is the same height as a fracking drill tower. They even said that it would not have guide wires. That led me to believe that it was going to be planted quite deep into the ground. My house would have been within 500 feet of the tower.



You lose some and you win some.
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pretty darn stupid,id have no problems with them fracking outside city limits,so long as it wasnt a danger to the areas water,but inside city limits is a little too far.
 
beerftw said:
pretty darn stupid,id have no problems with them fracking outside city limits,so long as it wasnt a danger to the areas water,but inside city limits is a little too far.
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What difference does it make?
 
apdst said:
Oh, well! So much that insignificant little crusade, based on bull****.



Looks like Denton's town government doesn't have the power to ban anything.
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Another demonstration of the empirical reality that the democratic process is very much an illusion. Self government is very much an illusion.
 
Henry David said:
Another demonstration of the empirical reality that the democratic process is very much an illusion. Self government is very much an illusion.
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More like: liberty has prevailed, once again. Who are these anti-fracers to put property rights up to a vote, based on lies?

There are 270 wells inside the Denton city linits. Life hasn't ceased to exist, as predicted.
 
apdst said:
This is what a frac job looks like. Note the absence of anything remotely resembling a communications tower.

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You are just showing the parking lot. You need to have one of these to drill down a mile and a half, then drill horizontally.

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apdst said:
Oh, well! So much that insignificant little crusade, based on bull****.



Looks like Denton's town government doesn't have the power to ban anything.
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We shall see about that.
 
apdst said:
More like: liberty has prevailed, once again. Who are these anti-fracers to put property rights up to a vote, based on lies?

There are 270 wells inside the Denton city linits. Life hasn't ceased to exist, as predicted.
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None of those 270 wells is currently fracking. They are older gas and oil straight line wells. Very few of them have been producing anything in quite some time.
 
d0gbreath said:
None of those 270 wells is currently fracking. They are older gas and oil straight line wells. Very few of them have been producing anything in quite some time.
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According to the anti-fracer website, those are working wells and I bet most were fraced to make them producable. You understand that fracing isn't an ongoing process, right?
 
d0gbreath said:
You are just showing the parking lot. You need to have one of these to drill down a mile and a half, then drill horizontally.

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1) It's hardly mistakable for a communications tower.

2) That's a drilling rig. It is moved off location before the fracing is done.

3) No, that's not the, "parking lot". :lamo

See the crane? That's the wellhead, there in the middle of the location.

Here's another view:

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See the wellhead?
 
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d0gbreath said:
We shall see about that.
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I think what we're going to see, are a buncha pissed off Dentonites, when they figure they were told a ****load of bald-face-lies.

When they figure out that they lost out on millions of dollars in revenue and no telling how many jobs, I bet they're going to be very upset.
 
Apdst, how many hydraulic fracturing sites have you worked on?
 
d0gbreath said:
Apdst, how many hydraulic fracturing sites have you worked on?
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Over a hundred. I hold drilling licenses in two states. I'm a third generation driller. I have 5 brothers. 2 are currently drillers; both on land rigs. 1 is a company man for EOG Resources. 1 works for TRICAN well services in Shawnee Oklahoma.

Basically, there's not much about the oilfield you're going to bamboozle me on.

Obviously, you've never even seen a frac job, much less worked on a frac job.
 
apdst said:
Over a hundred. I hold drilling licenses in two states. I'm a third generation driller. I have 5 brothers. 2 are currently drillers; both on land rigs. 1 is a company man for EOG Resources. 1 works for TRICAN well services in Shawnee Oklahoma.

Basically, there's not much about the oilfield you're going to bamboozle me on.

Obviously, you've never even seen a frac job, much less worked on a frac job.
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Over 100 is good.

So, in your expert estimation, why are the people here, in neighborhoods on the NW side of town, getting sick from the air contaminates? Not to mention noise fatigue and a blight to the landscape (oops, I mentioned those).
 
d0gbreath said:
Over 100 is good.

So, in your expert estimation, why are the people here, in neighborhoods on the NW side of town, getting sick from the air contaminates? Not to mention noise fatigue and a blight to the landscape (oops, I mentioned those).
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What air contaminates?
 
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