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Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

Crovax said:
How can the ban effect leases outside of city limits? The ban is about the wells built within city limits not a ban on fracking the formations
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Because the formations don't stop at the city limits sign, as I pointed out. Oil and gas leases require X amount of acres, per well. The city doesn't have the authority to cancel, or void leases.
 
apdst said:
Because the formations don't stop at the city limits sign, as I pointed out. Oil and gas leases require X amount of acres, per well. The city doesn't have the authority to cancel, or void leases.
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And as i pointed out the ban is only on wells built within city limits no matter where the lease is. The city isnt canceling or voiding any leases that will be up the the owner and the company to figure out.
 
At various times over the last six years, the current crop of GOPs has supported County and Municipal rights over State's rights, as well as Federal rights, but only depending on the issue.

In the last few years, we've also seen these same GOPs support certain Federal laws over State laws, such as with pot--again the issue. Yet remarkably, former GOP anti-pot crusaders are now becoming wealthy off the pot business.

As for fracking, we've seen fracking robber baron Rex Tillerson prevent fracking, even a water tower, in his own backyard--the well-known NIMBY effect .
 
Crovax said:
And as i pointed out the ban is only on wells built within city limits no matter where the lease is. The city isnt canceling or voiding any leases that will be up the the owner and the company to figure out.
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The city doesn't have the authority, and certainly not via referendum, to ban drilling and fracing on private property. Drilling permits are issued by the state, not the city.
 
d0gbreath said:
So, while I've been contemplating the hard losses for the Democratic Party in this years election, I came upon the winning of an issue that I'm personally involved in.


I spoke out at a city council meeting a year and a half ago when Atmos Gas Corp wanted to erect a 285 foot tower that they claimed was only for radio communications. Coincidentally, that is the same height as a fracking drill tower. They even said that it would not have guide wires. That led me to believe that it was going to be planted quite deep into the ground. My house would have been within 500 feet of the tower.



You lose some and you win some.
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I don't have any polls to point to, but my guess it that any Texans who are opposed to oil and gas operations are a minority of the population.
 
d0gbreath said:
So, while I've been contemplating the hard losses for the Democratic Party in this years election, I came upon the winning of an issue that I'm personally involved in.


I spoke out at a city council meeting a year and a half ago when Atmos Gas Corp wanted to erect a 285 foot tower that they claimed was only for radio communications. Coincidentally, that is the same height as a fracking drill tower. They even said that it would not have guide wires. That led me to believe that it was going to be planted quite deep into the ground. My house would have been within 500 feet of the tower.
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I think you may be paranoid regarding the proposed communications tower being a covert fracking tower. Not all of them have guy wires. Especially if they have a very limited area to work with. I've made the foundations for several communication towers.

However, I do understand your concern about having such a structure so close to your home. I know I wouldn't like one so close to my home. I guess it's the NIMBY effect at play.
 
Grant said:
Don't make promises you can't keep.

If it was dangerous it's quite likely the unions would be all over it, as well as lawmakers. But i get the strong feeling it's the issue du jour for the leftists and will die out as quickly as the Alar on apples hysteria of a few years back.
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I'm sure you are familiar with the purpose of Workman's Compensation insurance laws.

Virtually any line of work can have dangerous accidents, despite the best efforts of OSHA and such.

A friend of mine who works at a call center just had a WC claim last week from a silly accident. No chemicals were involved, but it was an accident with minor injuries that resulted from workplace activities.

And that's really the point Grant--workers are injured on the job. Some jobs are more dangerous than others, and I imagine drilling into the earth, with toxic chemicals involved, is one of the more dangerous jobs a person can hold.

If you or any other person wants to believe that injecting toxic substances into close proximity, or through, drinking water resources has no danger, have at it old buddy. Enjoy the illusion for all you can. I'll pass.
 
shrubnose said:
I don't have any polls to point to, but my guess it that any Texans who are opposed to oil and gas operations are a minority of the population.
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We're a small, yet mighty group.

Here I come to save the day!
 
It's nice to see a member of the British Government step up and tell the truth about fracking.

Sir Mark Walport reported last week that their study shows that fracking could have serious negative impacts on health and the environment that could last for decades. Could?

Fracking is really the "seeds and stems" of the oil industry. Essentially an act of desperation for an industry and society addicted to fossil fuel dependence. If it is true that we reached peak production many years ago, fracking is rather like a crack addict trying to find his last rock.
 
Henry David said:
I'm sure you are familiar with the purpose of Workman's Compensation insurance laws.

Virtually any line of work can have dangerous accidents, despite the best efforts of OSHA and such.

A friend of mine who works at a call center just had a WC claim last week from a silly accident. No chemicals were involved, but it was an accident with minor injuries that resulted from workplace activities.

And that's really the point Grant--workers are injured on the job. Some jobs are more dangerous than others, and I imagine drilling into the earth, with toxic chemicals involved, is one of the more dangerous jobs a person can hold.

If you or any other person wants to believe that injecting toxic substances into close proximity, or through, drinking water resources has no danger, have at it old buddy. Enjoy the illusion for all you can. I'll pass.
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Here's a history of fracking since 1947. It should be easy to investigate to see how many deaths or injuries have resulted as compared with other trades.
Hydraulic fracturing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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