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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    At what depth is the contaminated water? Anything deeper than 7-800 feet isn't fit for human consumption.
    There is no contaminated water at any depth. It's a fairy tale. His links are nothing more than opinion pieces.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Fracking is normally done about a mile underground. The water table is only a few hundred feet underground.

    Why don't you explain to everyone here how exactly fracking contaminates the water supply?
    Must the drill head pass through the "few hundred feet" on its way to the "about a mile underground"?

    Or are some sort of miracles involved?

    Have you seen any pictures or videos of tap water in flames? If not, you must be living under a rock.

    They don't frack where I live, but hundreds or thousands of homes have experienced this and documented it. Try "Gasland" if you're unaware.

    And I assume that you know that the chemicals injected in the process, through and near ground water deposits, are proprietary and neither approved by or known by the EPA and the Clean Water Act.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More like: liberty has prevailed, once again. Who are these anti-fracers to put property rights up to a vote, based on lies?

    There are 270 wells inside the Denton city linits. Life hasn't ceased to exist, as predicted.
    I have not ever predicted life will cease to exist because of fracking.

    And the record is pretty clear that for many people near fracking sites, the QUALITY of life changes because of the practice. Assuming one values quality of life, it is a factor. If one does NOT value quality of life, well, I understand.

    But it would totally suck to have the water one needs for life, once clean coming out of the tap, now contaminated and flammable.

    As a visitor over the years, the water in North and West Texas has always been lousy, so maybe if one is accustomed to lousy water it's no big thing.

    I like clean water, "potable" as they used to call it in the Army.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yawn.

    Nothing here but conjecture and opinion. No proof of anything. No conclusive studies. All I see is liberal agendas being pushed by liberal agencies and liberal media outlets. Nothing credible.

    Please take a step back and look at this objectively. Thousands of wells have been fracked throughout the United States. You've brought to my attention the case of one farmer in Texas, and one farmer in Wyoming (whose case was subsequently dropped, by the way).

    You know what, a solar panel could fall on your head and kill you too, you know.

    This is ridiculous.

    Part of me hopes you anti-frackers actually win. Then we can go back to using the only other energy source we have in abundance: COAL. And as the black smoke billows out of the smokestacks of corporations nationwide, I will laugh at the irony, just like I laugh every time I read about migrating birds that are being wiped out by windmills.

    Talk about denial. Forbes pushing the liberal agenda is like saying the Huffington Post is to the right of Fox News.

    I did not say that I was for or against fracking. I just provided links showing that it is connected to groundwater pollution. You obviously did not read the links because the no studies you allege was done by the EPA.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I have not ever predicted life will cease to exist because of fracking.

    And the record is pretty clear that for many people near fracking sites, the QUALITY of life changes because of the practice. Assuming one values quality of life, it is a factor. If one does NOT value quality of life, well, I understand.

    But it would totally suck to have the water one needs for life, once clean coming out of the tap, now contaminated and flammable.

    As a visitor over the years, the water in North and West Texas has always been lousy, so maybe if one is accustomed to lousy water it's no big thing.

    I like clean water, "potable" as they used to call it in the Army.
    You said the land and the water would be destroyed. That would cause life to end, pretty much.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    There is no contaminated water at any depth. It's a fairy tale. His links are nothing more than opinion pieces.
    The anti-fracers have been lying about groundwater contamination for years.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    That's the deep holes out here had a one that was going 17,000 about a year back. That one was exploratory though. Ours usually run about 5,000 or so depending on where you are at. Some of our wells are at the 700ft mark. Most of the water tables we have are brackish already. Some of it at very high pressure. If the drought keeps up it may become profitable to clean the water up for farming and drilling purposes.
    In the Concho Valley, west of San Angelo, there was a potable water zone at 4-500 feet, then another at around 700. Anything past that was salt water.

    When I was working in Loving County, Texas and Eddy County, New Mexico we wouldn't hit a water zone before about 1500 feet, when we drilled into the Santa Rosa, in most cases. We were air drilling in most cases and we would blow dust and blow dust up there.
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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Must the drill head pass through the "few hundred feet" on its way to the "about a mile underground"?

    Or are some sort of miracles involved?

    Have you seen any pictures or videos of tap water in flames? If not, you must be living under a rock.

    They don't frack where I live, but hundreds or thousands of homes have experienced this and documented it. Try "Gasland" if you're unaware.

    And I assume that you know that the chemicals injected in the process, through and near ground water deposits, are proprietary and neither approved by or known by the EPA and the Clean Water Act.
    You have to drill through the water table to drill an untracked well too, so your complaint has nothing to do with the "Fracking" portion of the oil or gas well.

    I suppose you're against conventional drilling too, then?

    As for water with methane in it....this is a normal occurrence for ppl who live in hydrocarbon rich areas. Happens all the time, even if there is no drilling anywhere nearby. It's simply nature.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Talk about denial. Forbes pushing the liberal agenda is like saying the Huffington Post is to the right of Fox News.

    I did not say that I was for or against fracking. I just provided links showing that it is connected to groundwater pollution. You obviously did not read the links because the no studies you allege was done by the EPA.
    The EPA is about as liberal and agenda filed as you get, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

    That said, even the EPA's study was not conclusive. In fact, it was subsequently rejected by the state of Wyoming.

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    Re: Texas Town Votes To Bar Fracking in City Limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The EPA is about as liberal and agenda filed as you get, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

    That said, even the EPA's study was not conclusive. In fact, it was subsequently rejected by the state of Wyoming.
    Rejected by Wyoming and refuted by Wyoming would be two different things. I am sure it is rejected by fracking interests as well.

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