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Meet Mia Love. You’ll be seeing a lot more of the Republicans’ first black [W:110]

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Regarding the LDS thing, she was raised Roman Catholic. I don't know when she converted or why. Maybe her husband is LDS?

I bet that went over with her family like a lead baloon.

Catholics don't have much use for LDS. She is smart to convert as a politician in UT though.
 
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Another leftist lie. It seems that being a Democrat equals being ignorant of American history.

That's not true.
 
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You know, it never ceases to amaze me how much that lie is repeated.

Reagan never said anything about color.
He never used the words "welfare queens". It's beyond pathetic that idiotic lies get repeated through the generations so that the unknowing who walk among us actually think the leftist lies are true. Amazing.
What is pathetic is that these lies are so frequently told when it is so easily demonstrated to be untrue. Were Democrats more schooled in actual history rather than the lies they've been taught to believe, it's doubtful they would have the numbers to launch a political campaign.
 
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That's not true.

Why he doesn't get dinged for that type of flaming is beyond me.
 
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He never said that phrase, but there's no secret about what he meant. Regardless...it's very off topic.
Oh, it was more leftist 'reading between the lines'??? It's off-topic only when liberals are embarrassed by their own.
 
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You know, it never ceases to amaze me how much that lie is repeated.

Reagan never said anything about color.
He never used the words "welfare queens".

It's beyond pathetic that idiotic lies get repeated through the generations so that the unknowing who walk among us actually think the leftist lies are true. Amazing.
You wish it were a lie...but Reagan did in fact base his welfare queen story on a black woman from Chicago that had bilked the system....


"...Linda Taylor, the haughty thief who drove her Cadillac to the public aid office, was the embodiment of a pernicious stereotype. With her story, Reagan marked millions of America’s poorest people as potential scoundrels and fostered the belief that welfare fraud was a nationwide epidemic that needed to be stamped out. This image of grand and rampant welfare fraud allowed Reagan to sell voters on his cuts to public assistance spending. The “welfare queen” became a convenient villain, a woman everyone could hate. She was a lazy black con artist, unashamed of cadging the money that honest folks worked so hard to earn....."

Linda Taylor, welfare queen: Ronald Reagan made her a notorious American villain. Linda Taylor’s other sins were far worse.
 
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You wish it were a lie...but Reagan did in fact base his welfare queen story on a black woman from Chicago that had bilked the system....


"...Linda Taylor, the haughty thief who drove her Cadillac to the public aid office, was the embodiment of a pernicious stereotype. With her story, Reagan marked millions of America’s poorest people as potential scoundrels and fostered the belief that welfare fraud was a nationwide epidemic that needed to be stamped out. This image of grand and rampant welfare fraud allowed Reagan to sell voters on his cuts to public assistance spending. The “welfare queen” became a convenient villain, a woman everyone could hate. She was a lazy black con artist, unashamed of cadging the money that honest folks worked so hard to earn....."

Linda Taylor, welfare queen: Ronald Reagan made her a notorious American villain. Linda Taylor’s other sins were far worse.

Did you notice that just above the paragraph you posted, the Slate article stated it was not Reagan who coined the phrase "welfare queen" but it was the Chicago Tribune?

"Her name was Linda Taylor, and it was the Chicago Tribune, not the GOP politician, who dubbed her the “welfare queen.” It was the Tribune, too, that lavished attention on Taylor’s jewelry, furs, and Cadillac—all of which were real."​

TB is right, these lies the left likes to drum into the ignorant do nothing but eliminate any credibility they thought they might have.
 
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Why he doesn't get dinged for that type of flaming is beyond me.

Was he flaming the poster, or leftists? It looks to me like it wasn't a personal attack toward the poster, but an observation regarding whether or not Reagan actually said that. Did REagan say it, or didn't he?
 
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Before 2014: "Stop shoving race and gender down our throats!"

2014: "Meet the GOP's first black woman!"

:roll:
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Oooook, folks. The topic is Mia Love, not Reagan or each other. Let's return to discussing her and leave the baiting out of it. And if anyone sees a violation, please report it, don't discuss it. Thanks!
 
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Before 2014: "Stop shoving race and gender down our throats!"

2014: "Meet the GOP's first black woman!"

:roll:

Who said the bolded?
What I believe to be the case, is that republicans have been accused of being racist, sexist, pigs, and the point of the op/thread, is that it isn't the case. REpublicans have been accused of not wanting to vote for women or minorities based on racism, but the actual case is that they have had very few in the republican party who have run, so there hasn't been much opportunity TO vote for women and minorities. There is no way in hell that I am going to vote for a woman or minority with whom I don't agree on policy. Give me a woman or minority that I agree with on policy, and they have my backing 100%. THis isni't about race, no matter what democrats would like us to believe. It's about whether or not we can support someone on policy. I sure as hell didn't vote for Obama, but if a black man or woman had been running against him, you can bet your ass I would have voted for that opponent. And if a black man or woman was running against a white democrat, you can still bet your ass that I would vote for the black man or woman. I have no great love for republicans, but I don't like the vast majority of democrats.
 
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Who said the bolded?

Nearly every conservative/right-libertarian on this site, with exceptions of course, has whined about how "liberals bring race into everything" and how "democrats use skin color to win elections." Seems a bit hypocritical when everytime a black man/woman runs as a Republican I get that fact shoved all the way down my throat. Put up a principled candidate, **** their race or gender. That's what I hear Republicans constantly say, so they should live up to their own standards.

What I believe to be the case, is that republicans have been accused of being racist, sexist, pigs, and the point of the op/thread, is that it isn't the case. REpublicans have been accused of not wanting to vote for women or minorities based on racism, but the actual case is that they have had very few in the republican party who have run, so there hasn't been much opportunity TO vote for women and minorities. There is no way in hell that I am going to vote for a woman or minority with whom I don't agree on policy. Give me a woman or minority that I agree with on policy, and they have my backing 100%. THis isni't about race, no matter what democrats would like us to believe. It's about whether or not we can support someone on policy. I sure as hell didn't vote for Obama, but if a black man or woman had been running against him, you can bet your ass I would have voted for that opponent.

This part I tend to agree with. I don't think the "All Republicans are racist" argument happens as often as the GOP likes to say it does, in fact it really doesn't happen that much at all. but it happens occasionally and when I see it, I call it out.
 
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Before 2014: "Stop shoving race and gender down our throats!"

2014: "Meet the GOP's first black woman!"

:roll:

It's like having elected a black woman they want the KKK declared to be not racist because blacks and gays have been oppressing white hetero males for a generation or 3 (or 100, haha).

So, let's everyone admit that we've treated the hetero white males unfairly and we offer reparations.
 
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Oh, it was more leftist 'reading between the lines'??? It's off-topic only when liberals are embarrassed by their own.

No, it's off topic because the thread is not about Ronald Reagan or what he did and didn't say.

I have a lot more to say, but there has been a Mod warning. Why don't you start a thread and you can educate us.
 
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This part I tend to agree with. I don't think the "All Republicans are racist" argument happens as often as the GOP likes to say it does, in fact it really doesn't happen that much at all. but it happens occasionally and when I see it, I call it out.

Around here, you're much more likely to run into something about Robert Byrd to prove that all Democrats are the KKK.
 
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Nearly every conservative/right-libertarian on this site, with exceptions of course, has whined about how "liberals bring race into everything" and how "democrats use skin color to win elections." Seems a bit hypocritical when everytime a black man/woman runs as a Republican I get that fact shoved all the way down my throat. Put up a principled candidate, **** their race or gender. That's what I hear Republicans constantly say, so they should live up to their own standards.



This part I tend to agree with. I don't think the "All Republicans are racist" argument happens as often as the GOP likes to say it does, in fact it really doesn't happen that much at all. but it happens occasionally and when I see it, I call it out.

Excuse me? Who shoved something down your throat here? Do you see my thread as shoving something down your throat?
 
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I bet that went over with her family like a lead baloon.

Catholics don't have much use for LDS. She is smart to convert as a politician in UT though.

I don't know many Mormons but I do know some Catholics and you're right now that I think of it. They seemed to have a hard time masking their contempt for Romney's religion (and also my boy Huntsman).

I don't know, her parents seem pretty damn proud of her, as they should be. She's a cool chick.
 
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Was he flaming the poster, or leftists? It looks to me like it wasn't a personal attack toward the poster, but an observation regarding whether or not Reagan actually said that. Did REagan say it, or didn't he?

No, he didn't. But out of respect for Gina, I wont say more, except that - he never said those words.

Back to Mia Love. I think she's adorable. There was a great CNN opinion piece on her you may enjoy:

Mia Love's inspirational life story (Opinion) - CNN.com
 
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Excuse me? Who shoved something down your throat here? Do you see my thread as shoving something down your throat?

Hey tres :2wave:

I wasn't talking about this thread specifically, just the topic in general. Your thread is fairly neutral compared to what I've seen. I wish Love the best in Congress. My comment was sparked after hearing about it all ****ing day. All over Facebook, all over this forum, all over FOX, all over Twitter. Even some of my coworkers today were talking about it. I'm rather frustrated that I have to simultaneously be accused of bringing up race too much and hear about every time the GOP elects a black representative.

P.S Change your avatar, it's not Halloween anymore. :2razz:
 
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Wasn't that cool? I saw the beautiful look on her face when it was a sure deal. I loved it!

I am hoping that we will eventually be able to destroy the image that Republicans hate minorities and women. Those are two of the biggest lies of my lifetime, and it just pisses me off that dems have been able to use those lies for their own gains for decades.

The GOP doesn't need black women to break that imagine. The white guys in charge of the party could start breaking those stereotypes with leadership and policies.
 
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This post is ridiculous.

republicans have already elected black men...this is not new.

however with the current demonetization, war on women, war on the poor, war on minorities, war on gay people and the republicans being so hate filled and mean and uncompromising........this kind of election was not supposed to happen.
 
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It's not about you personally, but political pundits on the right made a variety of comments about Obama winning because of his race and simply because of his race. Black people voted for him "because of race." Millennials voted for him "because of race" and because we "wanted to make history," and Colin Powell endorsed him "because of race."

Everybody just wanted to make history and feel good about voting for a black guy. He's presidency has been viewed as affirmation action issue, where a black guy with little experience or business of being president won out over all the qualified white people simply because of his skin color.

That is offensive to say about the country's first black president, but it was said. So now it's a little ironic to see a bunch of people on the right getting overly excited about a black conservative woman being elected.






Who said the bolded?
What I believe to be the case, is that republicans have been accused of being racist, sexist, pigs, and the point of the op/thread, is that it isn't the case. REpublicans have been accused of not wanting to vote for women or minorities based on racism, but the actual case is that they have had very few in the republican party who have run, so there hasn't been much opportunity TO vote for women and minorities. There is no way in hell that I am going to vote for a woman or minority with whom I don't agree on policy. Give me a woman or minority that I agree with on policy, and they have my backing 100%. THis isni't about race, no matter what democrats would like us to believe. It's about whether or not we can support someone on policy. I sure as hell didn't vote for Obama, but if a black man or woman had been running against him, you can bet your ass I would have voted for that opponent. And if a black man or woman was running against a white democrat, you can still bet your ass that I would vote for the black man or woman. I have no great love for republicans, but I don't like the vast majority of democrats.
 
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Hey tres :2wave:

I wasn't talking about this thread specifically, just the topic in general. Your thread is fairly neutral compared to what I've seen. I wish Love the best in Congress. My comment was sparked after hearing about it all ****ing day. All over Facebook, all over this forum, all over FOX, all over Twitter. Even some of my coworkers today were talking about it. I'm rather frustrated that I have to simultaneously be accused of bringing up race too much and hear about every time the GOP elects a black representative.

P.S Change your avatar, it's not Halloween anymore. :2razz:

It's not just about being Black. Tim Scott was also elected but that is not being mentioned much as there have been many Blacks elected within the GOP. It is that Mia Love has a lot of personal appeal and a terrific story to tell. That's what it's about.
 
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Wasn't that cool? I saw the beautiful look on her face when it was a sure deal. I loved it!

I am hoping that we will eventually be able to destroy the image that Republicans hate minorities and women. Those are two of the biggest lies of my lifetime, and it just pisses me off that dems have been able to use those lies for their own gains for decades.
It's not the dems using those lies for their own gains. Here's some 2012 right wing presidential candidates using the 'welfare queen' mantra....


“I don’t want to make black peoples’ lives better by giving them somebody else’s money,” - Rick Santorum in Iowa.


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Here's Mitt....

All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them." And they're hopeless. "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
 
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For at least half a century, the party of Lincoln has battled charges that it is racist, sexist and anti-immigrant.

Today, voters from a conservative state made those arguments a little bit harder to make. In Utah, Mia Love became the first black Republican woman — and first Haitian American — elected to Congress.

For the GOP — a house divided that faces significant demographic hurdles to winning the White House in 2016 even as it celebrates President Obama’s shellacking — this was huge. A party threatened with electoral extinction among African Americans and immigrants now has someone to brag about in Washington. In a wave election less about fresh Republican ideas than fervid disapproval of all things presidential, Love’s compelling personal story is an oasis. She’s not just a black face in what’s often described as a party full of angry old white men. She’s a path forward.


More here:

Meet Mia Love. You’ll be seeing a lot more of the Republicans’ first black congresswoman. - The Washington Post

Good for her. I've followed her for a while now. The daughter of Haitian immigrants.

So much for all Republicans being racist and sexist.

It's was great to see her win, a fresh new face along with new ideas is exciting! May she take each challenge in stride, as we know there will be many in the future.
 
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