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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    can you define this down into numbers?
    by the numbers

    As I have been saying for quite a while now, the best thing that could have happened to the Democratic Party last night was for the GOP to take back control of the Senate by a few vote margin. And thankfully, that is exactly what we got. That was Step #1.

    Step #2 depends on the GOP in Congress. I predict they will go all out with all sorts of right wing pieces of legislation and many will actually get passed by both houses and be sent to the desk of the President.

    Step #3 depends on President Obama. If he can grow a pair between now and then, he can stand up strong and forcefully and VETO those bills that are too far to the right for the American people. And if he has the guts to do that, he should do so very loudly and very publicly and with all the the righteous condemnation of an Old Testament prophet berating the sinners that he can muster. The American people must know that he will not allow the right wing to take over the nation and pass a political and ideological that destroys 120 years of progress by turning back the clock to the Gilded Age. Of course, Obama has never been a street fighting man - and that is one of the biggest let downs to people like me who voted and worked to get him elected in 2008. But he will need to adopt that rule to save the country from the right wing hordes.

    Step #4 is for the GOP and their supporters to get angry and mad and irate and see this as a betrayal of the will of the people to turn to the right (and of course it is not given the nature of these mid term election with a lower dem turnout than in presidential years) and accuse Obama of obstruction. This will only inspire them to stay hard right and not give an inch or modify their views and bills.

    Step #5 is for the GOP to embrace a strong right wing candidate in 2016 to bear their standard for President setting up an election reminiscent of 1964 when the GOP turned to the far right and came up with Barry Goldwater. My personal pick would be Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

    Step #6 is election night when we see a rerun of 64 with the GOP going down to defeat all over the nation with a few pockets of exception and the Democratic party sweeps to victory taking back Congress, winning the White House and taking back some parts of state legislatures and governor ships in the landslide.

    There you go EB - by the numbers steps 1 through 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As I stated long before yesterday, a necessary GOP win this year is but the first step towards landslide victories for the Democrats in 2016 all over the country. It simply had to happen as part of the taking back of the country and burying ring wing ideology.
    Been there, done that. Obama began his presidency with a supermajority and will leave it with a big frowny face, a veto pen, and a handful of unpopular executive orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    by the numbers

    as i have been saying for quite a while now, the best thing that could have happened to the democratic party last night was for the gop to take back control of the senate by a few vote margin. And thankfully, that is exactly what we got. That was step #1.

    Step #2 depends on the gop in congress. I predict they will go all out with all sorts of right wing pieces of legislation and many will actually get passed by both houses and be sent to the desk of the president.

    Step #3 depends on president obama. If he can grow a pair between now and then, he can stand up strong and forcefully and veto those bills that are too far to the right for the american people. And if he has the guts to do that, he should do so very loudly and very publicly and with all the the righteous condemnation of an old testament prophet berating the sinners that he can muster. The american people must know that he will not allow the right wing to take over the nation and pass a political and ideological that destroys 120 years of progress by turning back the clock to the gilded age. Of course, obama has never been a street fighting man - and that is one of the biggest let downs to people like me who voted and worked to get him elected in 2008. But he will need to adopt that rule to save the country from the right wing hordes.

    Step #4 is for the gop and their supporters to get angry and mad and irate and see this as a betrayal of the will of the people to turn to the right (and of course it is not given the nature of these mid term election with a lower dem turnout than in presidential years) and accuse obama of obstruction. This will only inspire them to stay hard right and not give an inch or modify their views and bills.

    Step #5 is for the gop to embrace a strong right wing candidate in 2016 to bear their standard for president setting up an election reminiscent of 1964 when the gop turned to the far right and came up with barry goldwater. My personal pick would be rand paul or ted cruz.

    Step #6 is election night when we see a rerun of 64 with the gop going down to defeat all over the nation with a few pockets of exception and the democratic party sweeps to victory taking back congress, winning the white house and taking back some parts of state legislatures and governor ships in the landslide.

    There you go eb - by the numbers steps 1 through 6.



    your analysis is not to good, its predicated on actions which must take place by the GOP and then the feelings of the people to act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yep. One day in, almost, and they've done nothing. Nothing.
    Uhmmmmm, cute, but no banana. The changing of the guard actually hasn't happened yet. "Now is the day of reckoning" in my post is, of course, a bit metaphorical since those newbies who won their elections haven't yet engage in their duties.

    But, "we will see", says the blind man to his deaf brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Oooooh. The Republicans have taken over the Senate.

    GOP seizes Senate - CNN.com

    (I didn't see another thread on this, so if this is a dupe, please let me know.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Uhmmmmm, cute, but no banana. The changing of the guard actually hasn't happened yet. "Now is the day of reckoning" in my post is, of course, a bit metaphorical since those newbies who won their elections haven't yet engage in their duties.

    But, "we will see", says the blind man to his deaf brother.
    I was just kidding. It will be interesting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    your analysis is not to good, its predicated on actions which must take place by the GOP and then the feelings of the people to act.
    andI said both in my analysis. I feel most secure about the GOP going bat guano crazy with right wing crap. I think thats a foregone conclusion and they will be able to resist the moment. I feel less secure about Obama growing a pair and doing what I suggest. But its the ticket to victory so I hope he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    I'm laughing at the notion that anyone believes there are still Christians left in the Democrat party.

    In fact, anyone who votes for a liberal democrat on religious grounds these days, may as well paint a pentogram on their living room floor.
    Nice hyperbole, no true Scottsman huh? Since when do YOU dictate who is Christian or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why's that? They don't have a veto majority. Obamacare is still not going to go away.
    That would be a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    andI said both in my analysis. I feel most secure about the GOP going bat guano crazy with right wing crap. I think thats a foregone conclusion and they will be able to resist the moment. I feel less secure about Obama growing a pair and doing what I suggest. But its the ticket to victory so I hope he does.
    What victory?

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