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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    He got both the stimulus and Obamacare.

    Your talking points need an upgrade.
    He didn't get the stimulus he wanted and he got a watered down ACA. Keep trying and maybe you can find that acorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    He didn't get the stimulus he wanted and he got a watered down ACA. Keep trying and maybe you can find that acorn.
    The "watered down" ACA he got, he got without a single Republican vote. Any "watering down" was done to appease members of his own party.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    A phoney list that for the most part can't be accomplished in 20 years let alone 2 and they know it. It's all about political posturing and not about getting things done for the American people. Interesting to see they're going to attack the ACA again that can't be repealed when time would be better spent improving it. And the repubs want to spend even more money bolstering the military complex that is one if the biggest contributors to our deficit.

    The republicans claim to want to reduce the deficit as long as they can spend money on their pet projects.

    my take on the ACA

    they will quickly pass a full repeal on the ACA through both the house and the senate

    they will force the president to sign his veto

    that will end the ACA stuff......other than the pubs can then use the point that they did TRY to repeal the whole thing, but were blocked by the pres

    They will then defund some points of it....tax on medical equipment, etc

    And then go on to other things.........

    That is how i see it playing out
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What a steaming pants load!
    Is that an 'others' style of debate? That sort of response occurs only when the poster is stuck for any intelligent response. You lose, mate!

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Gibson agreed to pay a $300,000 fine for the ebony from Madagascar that they acquired illegally. They also acknowledged their violations. They would've went after Taylor, Collings or Martin too. they weren't targeting Gibson. This is nothing new, Brazilian Rosewood is been illegal in this country since 1969. Going to blame Obama for that too?
    You are right and the history is here, including much of the sub-text. Gibson Guitar to Pay Fine Over Wood Imports - WSJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    my take on the ACA

    they will quickly pass a full repeal on the ACA through both the house and the senate

    they will force the president to sign his veto

    that will end the ACA stuff......other than the pubs can then use the point that they did TRY to repeal the whole thing, but were blocked by the pres

    They will then defund some points of it....tax on medical equipment, etc

    And then go on to other things.........

    That is how i see it playing out
    In other words, more dog and pony shows from the GOP.
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are right and the history is here, including much of the sub-text. Gibson Guitar to Pay Fine Over Wood Imports - WSJ

    But those who support a frequently over-zealous bureaucracy shouldn't complain when jobs eventually go overseas.
    There are embargo's and restrictions on these tone woods for good reason. Next thing you'll tell me that it's over zealous bureaucracy that is prohibiting guitar makers from using elephant ivory for nuts and saddles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    The "watered down" ACA he got, he got without a single Republican vote. Any "watering down" was done to appease members of his own party.
    Bull. He was pressured by the repubs before the vote to water it down. It actually seemed early on something could be worked out but the party of "no" wouldn't have any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is that an 'others' style of debate? That sort of response occurs only when the poster is stuck for any intelligent response. You lose, mate!
    No. When I see a steaming load I call it what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Bull. He was pressured by the repubs before the vote to water it down. It actually seemed early on something could be worked out but the party of "no" wouldn't have any of it.
    Only on the margins. The most important modifications toward the ACA came from conservative Democrats (like my Senators and House Rep at the time).The President had the ability to pass a more stringent bill with a strict Democratic Party vote, but enough Democratic Party representatives were of a different faction which had qualms with the base's notion for proper reform. Since you don't remember, I will try to refresh your memory that there was a lot of liberal sentiment that these representatives were not real Democrats or were bending to the will of obstinate Republicans.

    Of course in the aftermath, the Republican factions throughout the country voted out the conservative Democrats who had signed the final bill (mine included).
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