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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    It is going to be interesting to see who Angus King decides to caucus with this time. The GOP might end up picking up another seat, and not due to an election.
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It is going to be interesting to see who Angus King decides to caucus with this time. The GOP might end up picking up another seat, and not due to an election.
    Huff and Puff claims he will continue to caucus with the Democrats. according to the article, his voting record is more reliably DEM than 11 other senate Democrats

    Independent Angus King Will Continue To Caucus With Senate Democrats



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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Meanwhile, the House map now looks like this:

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I hate to clue you in on this, but the middle class was replaced by automation and the lack of its children's desire to actually study/learn in schools when it had the chance to do so...

    Stop trying to blame individual failings on anyone other than the the person who failed...
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so exactly what is your trade?
    I work in the facilities department and mail facility for one of the big three accounting firms. Right wing thinking would be "oh we can outsource you for seven dollars an hour, maximize our profit margin. Anyone can maintain the heating AC change lightbulb, handle security, and logistics coordination". Fortunately the firm that I work for got away from outsourcing and realized that "you get what you pay for" which is not right wing thinking when it comes to labor. They want everything bottom barrel cheap. Which makes it ironic that they're not advocating more illegal migrant labor.
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I work in the facilities department and mail facility for one of the big three accounting firms. Right wing thinking would be "oh we can outsource you for seven dollars an hour, maximize our profit margin anybody can maintain the heating AC change lightbulb, handle security, and logistics coordination". Fortunately the firm that I work for got away from outsourcing and realized that "you get what you pay for" which is not right wing thinking when it comes to labor. They want everything bottom barrel cheap. Which makes it ironic that they're not advocating more illegal migrant labor.
    if your job can be eliminated by the company because a machine can do the job cheaper than paying you is, what is wrong with that? Labor is a commodity, and are you saying a company has a duty to keep purchasing that commodity even if it no longer needs it?

    Like telling Wilson sorting goods they need to keep buying wood laminates even though by about 1981 or so tennis racquets were no longer being made out of wood?



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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I hate to clue you in on this, but the middle class was replaced by automation and the lack of its children's desire to actually study/learn in schools when it had the chance to do so...

    Stop trying to blame individual failings on anyone other than the the person who failed...
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if your job can be eliminated by the company because a machine can do the job cheaper than paying you is, what is wrong with that? Labor is a commodity, and are you saying a company has a duty to keep purchasing that commodity even if it no longer needs it?

    Like telling Wilson sorting goods they need to keep buying wood laminates even though by about 1981 or so tennis racquets were no longer being made out of wood?
    A lot of these "jobs" that you think were automated by "machines", I hate to tell you, are actually still being done by hand by Asian children in exchange for a bowl of rice and a dollar a day.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Meanwhile, the House map now looks like this:

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    Beautiful, but it needs more red.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    A lot of these "jobs" that you think were automated by "machines", I hate to tell you, are actually still being done by hand by Asian children in exchange for a bowl of rice and a dollar a day.
    that's another country's concern not ours. so I ask again, why should a company pay you more for labor it can get cheaper from another supplier?



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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I hate to clue you in on this, but the middle class was replaced by automation and the lack of its children's desire to actually study/learn in schools when it had the chance to do so...

    Stop trying to blame individual failings on anyone other than the the person who failed...
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's another country's concern not ours. so I ask again, why should a company pay you more for labor it can get cheaper from another supplier?
    Quite simply because you get what you pay for. If you pay bottom barrel wages you get bottom barrel labor in return. Before I was hired it took the firm about a year to realize just that.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Quite simply because you get what you pay for. If you pay bottom barrel wages you get bottom barrel labor in return. Before I was hired it took the firm about a year to realize just that.
    well that changes the issue. if your labor is better than it commands a higher price

    but that isn't the issue

    IF your employer can replace your labor with a cheaper alternative why shouldn't it?



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