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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    The same message still applied. The only difference was that the democrats lost one branch of congress rather then both. Had Obama jogged to the center after the 2010 shellacking, the democrats would not have faced such devastation last night.
    In 2010 Obama still had the Senate to cover for him and did not need to "jog to the center". It would have been wise for him to do so but wisdom is not the man's strong suit. Things are different now, though. He has no cover and if he stands in the way of bills that have popular support then I would look for the GOP to win in a cakewalk in 2016.




    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You mean like when the democrats passed Obamacare without any republican support? I agree. That was incredibly stupid. When you pass such a massive bill affecting so many Americans, it's not wise to pass it without at least some cover from the opposing party. I think the democrats eventually worked that out and tried to recover and share the blame by claiming that Obamacare was actually a republican idea based on an outdated statement from one twit at the heritage foundation years ago.
    No, that is not what I mean. As bad of a bill as Obamacare is, the Democrats knew it would pass so even though the public didn't like it it was not viewed as government wasting everyone's time. The votes to repeal Obamacare ARE a waste of time because they have no chance of passing. They are purely symbolic. If we REALLY want to get serious about repealing that law then we have to suck it up and leave it alone until a point when the GOP controls all three houses. Only then will it be worthwhile because only then will it have a realistic chance of passing.



    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    If getting something accomplished means passing just any ole bill just to keep from being labeled as obstructionists, then they would be better served acting as obstructionists. One of the biggest messages I pulled from last night's results was that the average American wants Obama, Reid, and Pelosi stopped. Now!
    Job creation and tax reform are hardly "just any ole bill". They are also issues that offer an opportunity to demonstrate leadership on and the Democrats will have a hard time standing in the way of.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This actually gives the GOP a pretty solid strategy for 2016 if they are smart enough to use it.

    With every bill that is passed by congress and vetoed by the president they can make sure that someone asks for Hilary's opinion on Obama's veto. Over the next two years test Hilary's willingness to be connected to Obama's legacy.
    That seems like a good idea. If Hillary wants to stay in the public's eye as a candidate for ever, let her answer. That said, she's got a media that will run interference for her.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, at least since 3:43am PST this morning, on a thread you started...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...post1063947083

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The laugh is on him as I have been saying this for some time now.
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I have contracted Ménière's disease for fun, which makes writing or scrolling on a computer screen a nightmare...so I have to ration myself so I haven't been around much.

    there are several slants, one saying it's business as usual. The Globe is saying it's a vote of frustration against the system as much as a declarative about Obama's policies; it asks if American lawmakers will get the message or continue posturing. Silly question.

    My favorite, the French language La Presse, has the best slant. They say it is indeed a condemnation of Obama himself and his poor decision making skills, something I've not seen referenced before. But a side bar spells bad news for Canada's Stephen Harper who, of late, has tied himself to Obama's coattails on the world stage, we have troops in Iraq as a result. The Russians are testing our air defenses in the Arctic and, well it's never a good thing for Canadian politicians to get to connected to their US counterparts, Brian Mulroney sang a duet with Reagan and he's now considered a criminal....by his friends.
    They tie in several other choices Harper has made making him appear to a be a US lackey, which many prime ministers are, but it's not cool to look like it. Coming from a right wing French language paper it is bad news for the Conservative government who have to face the people next spring.

    Us being in Iraq will play with the rednecks in Alberta and Ontario, but it will be his death knell in BC, Quebec, and the Maritimes especially if we have another terrorist attack like last week.

    The business community is is "optimistic" that now, with the GOP in control of congress there may be some fiscal responsibility restored...I suggest there are being naive..

    But, to be honest, here's our top national story:

    Marilyn Monroe photo raffled for $5 fetches $38K - British Columbia - CBC News

    So, we're good.
    Fascinating sounds like its pretty varied up there as it is here. Bad deal with the Ménière's. Thats crap, hope you have seen a specialist.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The laugh is on him as I have been saying this for some time now.
    Its not on him.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Oooooh. The Republicans have taken over the Senate.

    GOP seizes Senate - CNN.com


    (I didn't see another thread on this, so if this is a dupe, please let me know.)
    Reid's depressed....all that whining about the Koch Brothers had no effect.

    Clean out your office, Hairy. Mitch wants it fumigated before he moves in.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Can't blame the gridlock on Harry Reid anymore.
    But they can blame Obama for obstruction when he starts vetoing stuff.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its not on him.
    yeah, not just him - its on you too.
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    yeah, not just him - its on you too.
    Wrong twice now.

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