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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Really? Even better than the majority sweep you and colleagues have been predicting?

    This is quite an interesting spin, and, frankly, laughable.
    What is laughable - to use your descriptor - is you ignoring that I have been saying this would be he best thing for the Democrats for some time now.

    I made no such prediction that you claim. Just the opposite in fact.
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) i dont see the hostility above average
    2.) would depend on who you ask, some people hate those guys too and say the same thing you are saying about them, not agreeing of disagree just saying
    but that was my point both bush, Clinton and Reagan had the same thing happen(houses flip). its the norm
    3.) again dont see that any more than other presidents, must be the independent in me
    4.) again this is nothing new by the sheep. and also thats not what america should do at all. More and more people need to vote issues and voting records and not pay one bit of attention to party.

    but on a side note i do partially agree, it would be AWESOME for the GOP to listen to the people, be more moderate and do things based on wants and needs and not biased stereotypical ideology (like both parties do)

    5.) agreed


    Name ONE president who called the entire Republican caucus "enemies" BEFORE even having introduced a bill.

    The hostility of this administration toward the opposition, expressed through the insane Bill Reid has been palpable...and let no one ever forget how a lame, slithering Obama tried to lay the fault of his disaster health care bill at the feet of Mitt Romney with his pathetic lie "I never said that..."

    No administration has slithered as low and with more feral hate than Obama's
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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Name ONE president who called the entire Republican caucus "enemies" BEFORE even having introduced a bill.

    The hostility of this administration toward the opposition, expressed through the insane Bill Reid has been palpable...and let no one ever forget how a lame, slithering Obama tried to lay the fault of his disaster health care bill at the feet of Mitt Romney with his pathetic lie "I never said that..."

    No administration has slithered as low and with more feral hate than Obama's
    Agreed. Haven't seen you around man, how goes it? What are they saying up in Canada about last nights election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What is laughable - to use your descriptor - is you ignoring that I have been saying this would be he best thing for the Democrats for some time now.

    I made no such prediction that you claim. Just the opposite in fact.
    Well, at least since 3:43am PST this morning, on a thread you started...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...post1063947083

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    It's not the same. In 94 Clinton had to deal with Republican majorities in both houses. In 2010 the Democrats still maintained the Senate
    The same message still applied. The only difference was that the democrats lost one branch of congress rather then both. Had Obama jogged to the center after the 2010 shellacking, the democrats would not have faced such devastation last night.


    By partisan endeavors I mean passing bills with zero Democratic support that everyone knows will never get signed into law... like another bill to repeal Obamacare.
    You mean like when the democrats passed Obamacare without any republican support? I agree. That was incredibly stupid. When you pass such a massive bill affecting so many Americans, it's not wise to pass it without at least some cover from the opposing party. I think the democrats eventually worked that out and tried to recover and share the blame by claiming that Obamacare was actually a republican idea based on an outdated statement from one twit at the heritage foundation years ago.

    They should be focusing on job creation and the economy. These are issues that people care about the most and issues that Democrats will look bad standing in the way of.
    Most Americans want something done about Obamacare. It is very negatively affecting the job market and it is very negatively affecting middle class family budgets as most are now paying more for health insurance then for rent or mortgage while getting suck with six to twelve thousand dollar deductible. I think everyone can work out that Obamacare is not going to be repealed until the present idiot in the white house leaves office, however they can begin chipping away at it. Those who voted the republicans into the majority last night do not want Obamacare to just hang out there on the political vine. They want something done about it.

    2 years goes by very quickly. They can either demonstrate that they can get something accomplished or they can spin their wheels in the partisan muck and get stomped in 2016. That's the way I see it
    If getting something accomplished means passing just any ole bill just to keep from being labeled as obstructionists, then they would be better served acting as obstructionists. One of the biggest messages I pulled from last night's results was that the average American wants Obama, Reid, and Pelosi stopped. Now!

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I'm hoping they will pass bills abolishing the EPA and the IRA. Obama will veto them, of course, but it would set the stage for 2016.

    Immigration reform: Give them all work visas and let them get in line behind everyone else for naturalization - no increase in numbers. Dare Obama to veto that.

    And about a billion bills that cut taxes and regulations.
    I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I think the republicans will try to defund the EPA and anything else they don't like.

    ...And they'll likely stuff the budget bill with anti-abortion bills and whatnot and then threaten to shut down the gubbamint if Obama doesn't pass it.



    Basically, people just voted to shut down the government. That could significantly change things.

    Its a shame you appear to think that the only two options are an overreaching statist govt, or no govt at all.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so are claiming you made a predication then?



    since the house and senate are going to be in the GOP'S hands, every bill, which does not follow the ideas of the DMC, will be labeled.

    i found it extremely funny last night when liberal personalities stated.."now the congress is to be controlled by the republicans and the nations business can take place, the congress should give Obama the bills he wants"

    currently there is 387 bills passed by the house which are currently dead in the senate......i wonder how many are extreme?

    they must be very extreme since Reid will not allow them to come to the floor for a vote.




    well your entitled to your opinion of how you wish the world to be, ...like..... the workers are oppressed by the rich which are evil, greedy, and the poor man is going to rise up and throw off the oppressor, .....story line.





    any candidate the republicans put up is going to be labeled to be extreme, but what is funny is the democrats will work [as they always do] to steer the republican party towards a democrat - lite candidate ....ie Chris Christie, John Huntsman type...someone they find least offensive.




    no .......you stated to SEE the steps to a DMC landslide in 2016, and some of those steps are already known, and the rest is a rant against the GOP, and your hopes for the future.

    as stated in the first line........its a "predication"......
    Outstanding post. Keep slam-firing away at these liberal delusions.

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    Re: GOP seizes Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You summed Obama perfectly. And the difference between him and former Presidents like Reagan, Clinton and the others was assessed and judged last night. This will be his legacy.
    Obama-the nations only two-term lame duck POTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Agreed. Haven't seen you around man, how goes it? What are they saying up in Canada about last nights election?
    I have contracted Ménière's disease for fun, which makes writing or scrolling on a computer screen a nightmare...so I have to ration myself so I haven't been around much.

    there are several slants, one saying it's business as usual. The Globe is saying it's a vote of frustration against the system as much as a declarative about Obama's policies; it asks if American lawmakers will get the message or continue posturing. Silly question.

    My favorite, the French language La Presse, has the best slant. They say it is indeed a condemnation of Obama himself and his poor decision making skills, something I've not seen referenced before. But a side bar spells bad news for Canada's Stephen Harper who, of late, has tied himself to Obama's coattails on the world stage, we have troops in Iraq as a result. The Russians are testing our air defenses in the Arctic and, well it's never a good thing for Canadian politicians to get to connected to their US counterparts, Brian Mulroney sang a duet with Reagan and he's now considered a criminal....by his friends.
    They tie in several other choices Harper has made making him appear to a be a US lackey, which many prime ministers are, but it's not cool to look like it. Coming from a right wing French language paper it is bad news for the Conservative government who have to face the people next spring.

    Us being in Iraq will play with the rednecks in Alberta and Ontario, but it will be his death knell in BC, Quebec, and the Maritimes especially if we have another terrorist attack like last week.

    The business community is is "optimistic" that now, with the GOP in control of congress there may be some fiscal responsibility restored...I suggest there are being naive..

    But, to be honest, here's our top national story:

    Marilyn Monroe photo raffled for $5 fetches $38K - British Columbia - CBC News

    So, we're good.
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