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    So most Catholics are satan worshipers to you since they vote mostly democrat?
    Most Catholics who ignore what is written in their Bibles and vote for liberal democrats...

    may as well paint a pentogram on their floors, make a broze statue of those they worship like Obama, the Kardashians, and so on.

    They ACT like satan worshipers---even if they don't do it directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Its not information until it happens. Before it happens - its a prediction.
    so are claiming you made a predication then?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you have any idea how many bills Congress MUST PASS in a session simply to keep the government running and are not at all controversial? They will NOT be labeled as right wing. Your comment shows a fundamental ignorance as to how a legislative body works and what their responsibilities are.
    since the house and senate are going to be in the GOP'S hands, every bill, which does not follow the ideas of the DMC, will be labeled.

    i found it extremely funny last night when liberal personalities stated.."now the congress is to be controlled by the republicans and the nations business can take place, the congress should give Obama the bills he wants"

    currently there is 387 bills passed by the house which are currently dead in the senate......i wonder how many are extreme?

    they must be very extreme since Reid will not allow them to come to the floor for a vote.


    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps to someone on the far right who does not like others telling it like it is.
    well your entitled to your opinion of how you wish the world to be, ...like..... the workers are oppressed by the rich which are evil, greedy, and the poor man is going to rise up and throw off the oppressor, .....story line.


    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Was Dwight Eisenhower labeled by they democratic candidate running against him as a right wing extremist? What about Nixon? Or Ford? Or George W? or Junior?

    Perhaps Reagan was because of his staunch conservatism - as well as McCain.

    In other words, the label must fit.

    So lets see when it happens. Until then, I stand by my prediction.

    any candidate the republicans put up is going to be labeled to be extreme, but what is funny is the democrats will work [as they always do] to steer the republican party towards a democrat - lite candidate ....ie Chris Christie, John Huntsman type...someone they find least offensive.


    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The attack is you trying to pick at me making it appear that I suddenly found this this morning and its all just sour grapes and politics against the right. The attack is you trying to make it sound like I took credit for events that I did not take credit for.

    Of course, the real question to you now is why you have to resort to crap like that?
    no .......you stated to SEE the steps to a DMC landslide in 2016, and some of those steps are already known, and the rest is a rant against the GOP, and your hopes for the future.

    as stated in the first line........its a "predication"......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    LOL.

    Given the fact that the GOP cant pass anything in the House except for 'repeal Obamacare' bills that they only pass because they KNOW they will go nowhere, I'd be stunned if the rational portion of the House GOP can align with the teabag nuts and come up with any reasonable legistlation on anything significant that can get thru the Senate.

    I expect the Senate will do a bang up job blocking every administration appointment for the next two years, talk a lot about how immigration reform is really, really important (but not actually do anything), and rip into Obama's EPA reforms, with occasional pauses to shut down government over budgets and the debt ceiling again.
    That's about it.

    What baffles me is that GOPers are still duped into thinking that the newly elected GOP Senators actually favor a repeal of PPACA, instead of merely saying they support the repeal to get re-elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    That's about it.

    What baffles me is that GOPers are still duped into thinking that the newly elected GOP Senators actually favor a repeal of PPACA, instead of merely saying they support the repeal to get re-elected.
    currently there is about 387 bills the house has passed and Reid will not allow the come up for a vote on the senate floor.

    there has been almost no voting in the senate over the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    hmmm dont know if there was another thread or not but this was expected, its become the norm for two term presidents for the house to switch the last two years.
    Not to mention this will simply mean government will be accomplishing LESS whether you want them to or not lol

    this is why im an independent and will remain that way forever, its also why I dream of a day when we arent so two party driven in this county. Unfortunately that wont change in my life time.


    What is NOT the norm is a president who has shown such hostility toward his fellow lawmakers.

    Recall please that one mister William Clinton ended up in a similar situation and, it seems, he did well, retiring from office one of the most popular presidents of the modern era. There were others, in both parties, Ronald Reagan, Johnson, Eisenhower too, and FDR, well he spent nearly 15 years assuaging egos....

    But here we have a petty little king/rock star, who got little done when he had a majority, spent the first two years whining about "I inherited this mess" and the next four blathering "they won't let me."


    That is an historic new low and it is only right that the American people now turn their hopes and dreams to the only available alternative, a GOP who hopefully, for them, will not once again circle their wagons and start shooting inward.

    But, seriously folks, anyone who thinks anything is going to get accomplished in the next two years is dreaming in technicolor
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    currently there is about 387 bills the house has passed and Reid will not allow the come up for a vote on the senate floor.

    there has been almost no voting in the senate over the last few years.
    Exactly. Harry Reid is a colossal failure as Majority Leader. He spent more time worrying about the names of NFL teams and calling the Koch Brothers "un-American" than he did worrying about doing his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    What is NOT the norm is a president who has shown such hostility toward his fellow lawmakers.

    Recall please that one mister William Clinton ended up in a similar situation and, it seems, he did well, retiring from office one of the most popular presidents of the modern era. There were others, in both parties, Ronald Reagan, Johnson, Eisenhower too, and FDR, well he spent nearly 15 years assuaging egos....

    But here we have a petty little king/rock star, who got little done when he had a majority, spent the first two years whining about "I inherited this mess" and the next four blathering "they won't let me."


    That is an historic new low and it is only right that the American people now turn their hopes and dreams to the only available alternative, a GOP who hopefully, for them, will not once again circle their wagons and start shooting inward.

    But, seriously folks, anyone who thinks anything is going to get accomplished in the next two years is dreaming in technicolor
    You summed Obama perfectly. And the difference between him and former Presidents like Reagan, Clinton and the others was assessed and judged last night. This will be his legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Oooooh. The Republicans have taken over the Senate.

    GOP seizes Senate - CNN.com


    (I didn't see another thread on this, so if this is a dupe, please let me know.)
    The only "dupe" in this thread would be someone who ignorantly downplays the huge significance, both literally with respect to legislation, and symbolically with respect to it representing the attitude of the great majority of Americans, of the Republicans gaining control of the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Quick question. All the bills that were not moving to the floor for a vote will now have a chance to come to the floor, or will they have to be revoted in the house? I think they can come straight up, but I am not 100%. Can anyone educate me on this?
    The newly elected won't be seated until the next congress commences, so, those bills will have to be re-voted in the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    by the numbers

    As I have been saying for quite a while now, the best thing that could have happened to the Democratic Party last night was for the GOP to take back control of the Senate by a few vote margin. And thankfully, that is exactly what we got. That was Step #1.

    Step #2 depends on the GOP in Congress. I predict they will go all out with all sorts of right wing pieces of legislation and many will actually get passed by both houses and be sent to the desk of the President.

    Step #3 depends on President Obama. If he can grow a pair between now and then, he can stand up strong and forcefully and VETO those bills that are too far to the right for the American people. And if he has the guts to do that, he should do so very loudly and very publicly and with all the the righteous condemnation of an Old Testament prophet berating the sinners that he can muster. The American people must know that he will not allow the right wing to take over the nation and pass a political and ideological that destroys 120 years of progress by turning back the clock to the Gilded Age. Of course, Obama has never been a street fighting man - and that is one of the biggest let downs to people like me who voted and worked to get him elected in 2008. But he will need to adopt that rule to save the country from the right wing hordes.

    Step #4 is for the GOP and their supporters to get angry and mad and irate and see this as a betrayal of the will of the people to turn to the right (and of course it is not given the nature of these mid term election with a lower dem turnout than in presidential years) and accuse Obama of obstruction. This will only inspire them to stay hard right and not give an inch or modify their views and bills.

    Step #5 is for the GOP to embrace a strong right wing candidate in 2016 to bear their standard for President setting up an election reminiscent of 1964 when the GOP turned to the far right and came up with Barry Goldwater. My personal pick would be Rand Paul or Ted Cruz.

    Step #6 is election night when we see a rerun of 64 with the GOP going down to defeat all over the nation with a few pockets of exception and the Democratic party sweeps to victory taking back Congress, winning the White House and taking back some parts of state legislatures and governor ships in the landslide.

    There you go EB - by the numbers steps 1 through 6.


    Really? Even better than the majority sweep you and colleagues have been predicting?

    This is quite an interesting spin, and, frankly, laughable.

    The remainder is predicated on myth and that the "reasonable" Democrats like lizard-brain Harry Reid actually think before they speak. I'm sorry to inform you that for your scenario to be even remotely possible, every Democrat in the House to date will have had to grow a conscience.

    meanwhile, you ignore the cheap, gutter ploy already in ploy by your sleazy president where he is already gearing up to rush through tons of bills while he still has a Senate majority.

    What is classic and obvious in all of your post is that the Democrats have NO intention of trying to work with the new reality.
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