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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They still matter to loyal partisans.
    Too bad we couldn't get someone to bring all people together as American's. That would have been a nice.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Too bad we couldn't get someone to bring all people together as American's. That would have been a nice.
    Wouldn't it though?
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Um... liberalism creates loyalty?

    My history book says that Reagan was president in 1981, not Carter.

    What does yours say?

    Yes, Reagan was elected and took office in January. His economic plan was passed in August, the recession began in June so tell me how Reagan created a recession without having a plan implemented?

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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    By the way if I had fallen that many steps it wouldn't have taken me 7 years to get back up to the top
    You avoided the actual point. The question was from what starting point should we measure success. Has the recovery taken a long time and is not a particularly good one? Of course. But don't confuse people saying things are getting better with us saying things are great or that everything's fine. A temperature of 100.2 is a good thing if it had been up to 105, and I would absolutely call that an improvement and say things are getting better. That doesn't make 100.2 a good temperature. But you want to ignore that it had been up to 105 and coming down.

    My point is that by all indications, we have finally hit the main turn-around point. We've recovered and exceeded all jobs lost to the Recession and economic growth is evident. Wages and income are starting to go back up.
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    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    You avoided the actual point. The question was from what starting point should we measure success. Has the recovery taken a long time and is not a particularly good one? Of course. But don't confuse people saying things are getting better with us saying things are great or that everything's fine. A temperature of 100.2 is a good thing if it had been up to 105, and I would absolutely call that an improvement and say things are getting better. That doesn't make 100.2 a good temperature. But you want to ignore that it had been up to 105 and coming down.

    My point is that by all indications, we have finally hit the main turn-around point. We've recovered and exceeded all jobs lost to the Recession and economic growth is evident. Wages and income are starting to go back up.
    The point is it took us 7 years to get back all the jobs lost since the recession started and you call that a success? The American people don't call it a success nor do I. Labor participation rate, the numbers of part time workers, and the wages being paid showing that many of those jobs are indeed part time. Obama was hired to fix the problem and at a cost of 7 plus trillion dollars and has failed miserably as evidenced by the reality of the elections and the fact that no one here can point to the legislation he created to lead to success

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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and conservatives don't acknowledge that Obama inherited the worst recession since the great depression? Really?

    Is that an example of mutability of the past?
    I dont see how its relevent, given it had already been recovering by the time he took office. So what he inherited was a recovery. Bush, congress, the fed, had already taken all the major actions in dealing with the banking crisis. in late 2008. The stimulus may have made the recovery go a little quicker, but not much, and at a great cost in debt.

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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    no, the 81-82 recession was much worse compounded by a 20 plus misery index with record high interest rates. The further we get away from that recession the more revisionist history about this recession
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    Reagan had the leadership skills Obama will never have and can only dream about


    So predictable. I love partisan broken records.
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    You've pointed out your own ridiculousness in this thread, and rather poorly might I add.
    That doesn't even make sense, which is what I've come to expect from you. All Iv'e done is point out how partisans will consistently say things which defy logic and reason. And those people make me laugh.

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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, Reagan was elected and took office in January. His economic plan was passed in August, the recession began in June so tell me how Reagan created a recession without having a plan implemented?
    He was a little late then wasn't he. ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!

    Obama took control and passed the stimulous bill as soon as possible.
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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So predictable. I love partisan broken records.
    Why do you think I still respond to your uneducated pablum of posts?

    Of course it doesn't make sense to you. Simple common sense baffles your responses every day.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Why do you think I still respond to your uneducated pablum of posts?
    Because you know I'm right and your e-ego won't allow you to accept it. So you reply to try and put your partisan spin on the situation to hide the fact your posts fail the logic and reason test.

    Of course it doesn't make sense to you.
    Makes perfect sense to me. Do you think you're the first person I've encountered on the Internet who was ashamed at how wrong I continually show them to be? Of course not. You're no different than posters I've seen many times in a variety of different forums. You are blindly loyal to a position and no matter how much the facts and logic show your position to be stupid, you'll stubbornly cling to it because you're terrified to admit to a stranger on the Internet you might be wrong.

    You're a dime a dozen fella/lady.

    Simple common sense baffles your responses every day.
    Not at all. When you present common sense, I'll understand it just fine. But since your sole criteria for political common sense rests entirely on whether there is a "D" behind someone's name, it's obvious you don't care about common sense, just partisanship.

    And, hey, that's your right, I suppose. It doesn't mean it won't make me laugh at the absurdity.

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