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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

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Mycroft said:
Obama, himself, finds it hard to embrace the policies he and his Democrat buddies inflicted upon America. How do you expect those others...especially the ones who voted along with him...to embrace them?
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Outstanding point.
 
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Juanita said:
A rift in the party strengthens it?
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Absolutely. It allows them to address these issues now and will leave the party stronger.

I know libs hate competition, but this is precisely why competing ideas in the marketplace of ideas is a good thing.
 
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US Conservative said:
Maybe its her high cheekbones or her discredited neo-marxist fail? And btw, Issa is my congressional rep and I enjoy voting for him. :cool:
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You didn't answer my question! What does she "say" that bugs you SO much?

Issism is like McCarthyism!
 
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NIMBY said:
Absolutely on Dems running from their own President--just as GOPs did with Bush in 2006.

You didn't hear all the losing Senate and Governor candidates comparing the economies of 2014 and 2008.

And DuNCe chief Wasserman-Schultz was worse than VA Sen. Kaine was as chief for the 2010 disaster, if that's possible.

There doesn't appear to be any clean way to rid ourselves of Pelosi and Reid.
We may as well have our own civil war.

Even if Landrieu loses her run-off in Louisiana, she'll teach DEMs how to fight again .
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I don't care about Reid, but I like Pelosi! The Dems were not true to themselves and voters saw right through them!
 
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DEMs stayed home again, just as they did in the 2010 disaster and the one in 1994.
After helping to man phone banks for two months, the apathy among DEMs can't be overlooked as a huge factor.

Juanita said:
I don't care about Reid, but I like Pelosi! The Dems were not true to themselves and voters saw right through them!
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Pelosi and Reid are poison to National Democrats.
 
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US Conservative said:
Absolutely. It allows them to address these issues now and will leave the party stronger.

I know libs hate competition, but this is precisely why competing ideas in the marketplace of ideas is a good thing.
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The House has had this problem for awhile. Has it strengthened the party in Congress?
 
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NIMBY said:
DEMs stayed home again, just as they did in the 2010 disaster and the one in 1994.
After helping to man phone banks for two months, the apathy among DEMs can't be overlooked as a huge factor.


Yes, I agree that Dems stayed home--because the candidates did not make their cases! They did not make voters feel like there was an advantage in voting Democratic. They did not push the progressive agenda in a believable manner. They did not make it clear what was at stake!
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Juanita said:
NIMBY said:
DEMs stayed home again, just as they did in the 2010 disaster and the one in 1994.
After helping to man phone banks for two months, the apathy among DEMs can't be overlooked as a huge factor.


Yes, I agree that Dems stayed home--because the candidates did not make their cases! They did not make voters feel like there was an advantage in voting Democratic. They did not push the progressive agenda in a believable manner. They did not make it clear what was at stake!
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What do you think was at stake?
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Juanita said:
Sorry, but that makes no sense!
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Sure it does.

Look, when Obama ran for re-election in 2012, his campaign relied on attacks on Romney. He had very little to say about defending things he actually did up to that point. The "war on women" played big in his campaign.

This year...at least here in Colorado...Udall avoided talking about his record of supporting Obama's policies and spent all his time attacking Gardner. And, again, the "war on women" played big in HIS campaign. Unfortunately, it didn't work this time.

From what I saw, the same kind of thing played out in other States.
 
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Juanita said:
All the social issues!
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Really? How was all the social issues at stake? You do realize that the president can do just about anything he wants with Executive orders, right? When you have the king in your court I don't really see the point in worrying all that much.
 
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Mycroft said:
Sure it does.

Look, when Obama ran for re-election in 2012, his campaign relied on attacks on Romney. He had very little to say about defending things he actually did up to that point. The "war on women" played big in his campaign.

This year...at least here in Colorado...Udall avoided talking about his record of supporting Obama's policies and spent all his time attacking Gardner. And, again, the "war on women" played big in HIS campaign. Unfortunately, it didn't work this time.

From what I saw, the same kind of thing played out in other States.
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That plays into what I was saying about the Democrats not embracing what they voted on.. Obama does have a record and much of it is very good and he certainly didn't backtrack on any of that during his campaign.
 
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Henrin said:
Really? How was all the social issues at stake? You do realize that the president can do just about anything he wants with Executive orders, right? When you have the king in your court I don't really see the point in worrying all that much.
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No, he can only do so much with executive orders, not anything and everything!
 
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NIMBY said:
all expected--nothing to brag about--spent far too much money in Kentucky and couldn't help others-

with NC, NH, VA or a clean GA, DEMs hold serve in the Eastern time zone Senate-

gubernatorial races will be the DEMs big winner tonight-

16 states closing -
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Doesn't look like your prediction played out.
 
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Juanita said:
No, he can only do so much with executive orders, not anything and everything!
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Maybe he should do something outside that scope and when called on it just claim it is a compelling state interest. That argument doesn't seem to fail all that often in the SC.
 
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Juanita said:
Trumped up? Are you serious? Women's reproductive rights are being abolished state by state and that is a fact!
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Those laws are being repealed one right after another. I don't see the courts allowing through anything really substantial when it comes to abortion laws any time soon.
 
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That is it for me tonight! Nighty night..
 
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Juanita said:
US Conservative said:
Trumped up? Are you serious? Women's reproductive rights are being abolished state by state and that is a fact!
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Simply untrue, and your defeated dem in Colorado (who ran entirely on that empty rhetoric) found that out the hard way. People see through the rhetoric.
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