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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

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I hear you. Been in that position myself. Honestly Juanita, I'm letting myself have a little fun tonight because, let's face it, we (GOP voters) haven't had much to celebrate the last couple years but I'm not going to say this spells the end of the Dems like how I heard in 2012 about the GOP. It's always a pendulum swing.



I agree about the pendulum swing, but it is a very disappointing outcome for the progressives. I'm glad somebody is having fun tonight. :2wave:
 
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I happen to agree with him. The exit polls clearly showed Obamacare to be something that is of most concern to the voters. Let them use the process the Democrats used to pass the thing, to overturn it. Take it to Obama's desk and let him veto it. Then come back to the Senate and start dissecting it apart piece by piece on the parts they can, some which they have bipartisan support and take them to Obama's desk. No longer will Congress be the party of "No", if legislation doesn't move, it rests on Obama's head.

Strangely enough, I'm not horribly against doing reconciliation to get rid of Obamacare because I think it's fair play to use the process that passed it to get rid of it.

I'm just against Republicans pointing to the precedence of using reconciliation for something that wasn't primarily focused on setting a budget or changing the tax code as a mean and doing so to use it for all sorts of other various laws. Leave it to what it's historically been used for outside of Obamacare.
 
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Yay, Obama finally gets to use his veto power.
 
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I know - I am thoroughly embarrassed to have made that error! I was so elated that the Republicans will control the Senate, I screwed up! I missed that Crist has conceded too - that's what happens when you get phone calls from excited children! What an exciting night this has been! Wow!

Im excited enough to have a glass of celebratory vino tonight!
 
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I'm curious to see how accurate Nate Silver was again.

Yeah, seems that Nate's been awfully quite throughout this election cycle.
Or is it maybe that his results just weren't the stuff that the network news guys wanted to cover? Hmmm.
 
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Staggering notion here...

Republicans may end up with 54 seats along with taking governorships in Massachusetts, Maryland, Illinois, Michigan, Florida, Georgia, and Wisconsin.

It'll actually be really interesting to see how this election compares to the 2010 election.
 
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More Nixonian than Nixon. And by that I mean least transparent, and most corrupt.


I'll roll with you on least transparent, form the perspective, and I think Rob would agree with me on this, the way Obama has gone hard after not only whistleblowers but the press in general. Remember him with the AP? I mean how many times has he dredged up the Espionage act?

I don't see him being that corrupt though man, at least no more than other president.
 
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I'll roll with you on least transparent, form the perspective, and I think Rob would agree with me on this, the way Obama has gone hard after not only whistleblowers but the press in general. Remember him with the AP? I mean how many times has he dredged up the Espionage act?

I don't see him being that corrupt though man, at least no more than other president.

I see him as the worst, certainly in my lifetime and Im 34.
 
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Im excited enough to have a glass of celebratory vino tonight!

I haven't had a drink this year... But what the hell, I guess Mr. Beam and I could get reacquainted.
 
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Possible, but I think it depends on who has the most anti-incumbency energy. I think that will remain with Republicans for the short-term. Democrats have a lot of ground to make-up in the House, but less so in the Senate.

Congress is fine. The American public is what divides it. Special interests are also good for the country. It's just that people whine about the other people's special interests.

In time, yes. But this can be a significant short-term victory for Republicans if they take the White House in 2016. They would have a short window to replicate the reforms pushed by President Obama and the Democratic Party. After that point, I would not be surprised in the least that their majorities start to fall thereafter.

Congress doesn't seem fine to me. Special interests are terrible for the country. Do you know how much federal money is wasted because institutions like for-profit colleges fund congressional races and ensure that there are no rules preventing them from exploiting grants and military benefits? Education, health care, and defense are all incredibly bloated because the people who are supposed to keep them in check are more or less their employees.

It's true that this could be a significant short term victory. But the trend is obvious: blame whoever is in charge instead of blaming ourselves for allowing our government to be owned by special interest groups, bureaucrats, and billionaires.
 
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I don't think Obama gives a ****, and really why should he? I mean Clinton was facing a re-election so he had to. Look if Obama was going to play "ball" he would of done it after 2010.

True, I don't think anything can trump his ideology.
 
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Maryland, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois-are you FREAKIN KIDDING ME? :lol:

Did we win Colorado? Yep took Illinois. BO's claim that Illinois is his new home. Not anymore....now Hawaii can take his pathetic ass back where he belongs.


WHERE is Lil Debbie Wasserman Schultz.....did she go and hide back under that Rock she crawled out of? :lol:

The Press should be all over that dingbat.....and letting her hear how wrong she was and totally out of touch with reality.
 
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I happen to agree with him. The exit polls clearly showed Obamacare to be something that is of most concern to the voters. Let them use the process the Democrats used to pass the thing, to overturn it. Take it to Obama's desk and let him veto it. Then come back to the Senate and start dissecting it apart piece by piece on the parts they can, some which they have bipartisan support and take them to Obama's desk. No longer will Congress be the party of "No", if legislation doesn't move, it rests on Obama's head.

Or more simply put:

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Strangely enough, I'm not horribly against doing reconciliation to get rid of Obamacare because I think it's fair play to use the process that passed it to get rid of it.

I'm just against Republicans pointing to the precedence of using reconciliation for something that wasn't primarily focused on setting a budget or changing the tax code as a mean and doing so to use it for all sorts of other various laws. Leave it to what it's historically been used for outside of Obamacare.

I feel like if they were to make Obamacare priority one, I think it just blows up in their face. And it's obviously not going to pass a Presidential VETO so obviously not getting done. What Republicans HAVE to do, to restore any credibility, is come up with a series of legislations that have popular support, get them passed and let Obama veto the hell out of them first. At least then it looks less political instead of going straight for Obamacare. Hell, leave it alone and you might actually get Obama to work with you...
 
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I don't live in bankrupt California.....

And it's sad how liberals fawn over Harvard. Completely disconnected from the realities of the real world.

I was just pointing out that reducing a brilliant man (by all accounts) who has been entrenched in politics for decades to a character he portrayed several times in the 80s seems a little absurd. You should call John McCain "little diaper boy" because he used to wear diapers! For years! As a child, sure, but nonetheless, is a man who used to be an infant really fit for leadership?
 
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Did we win Colorado? Yep took Illinois. BO's claim that Illinois is his new home. Not anymore....now Hawaii can take his pathetic ass back where he belongs.


WHERE is Lil Debbie Wasserman Schultz.....did she go and hide back under that Rock she crawled out of? :lol:

The Press should be all over that dingbat.....and letting her hear how wrong she was and totally out of touch with reality.

Since they hadn't noticed it in the last 4 years, what makes you think they will now?
 
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Congress doesn't seem fine to me. Special interests are terrible for the country. Do you know how much federal money is wasted because institutions like for-profit colleges fund congressional races and ensure that there are no rules preventing them from exploiting grants and military benefits? Education, health care, and defense are all incredibly bloated because the people who are supposed to keep them in check are more or less their employees.

It's true that this could be a significant short term victory. But the trend is obvious: blame whoever is in charge instead of blaming ourselves for allowing our government to be owned by special interest groups, bureaucrats, and billionaires.

You aint lying. We DESERVE the govt we ALLOW.
 
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I just turned to MSNBC for some fun. I think Maddow may cry on air. She just said something about Republicans not wanting to govern, they just want to make Obama look bad (like he isn't already doing that on his own). The wake continues.
 
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Did we win Colorado? Yep took Illinois. BO's claim that Illinois is his new home. Not anymore....now Hawaii can take his pathetic ass back where he belongs.


WHERE is Lil Debbie Wasserman Schultz.....did she go and hide back under that Rock she crawled out of? :lol:

The Press should be all over that dingbat.....and letting her hear how wrong she was and totally out of touch with reality.

She certainly appears as if she's spent much time under rocks. Her sexist "Scott Walker pulls women back by the hair" comments didn't appear to work.
 
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Staggering notion here...

Republicans may end up with 54 seats along with taking governorships in Massachusetts, Maryland, Illinois, Michigan, Florida, Georgia, and Wisconsin.

It'll actually be really interesting to see how this election compares to the 2010 election.

55. Louisiana.
 
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I don't think Obama gives a ****, and really why should he? I mean Clinton was facing a re-election so he had to. Look if Obama was going to play "ball" he would of done it after 2010.

Play ball how? He offered Repubs their own policies that they came up with but they still chose to vote it down because Obama was prez. What kind of ball playing does he need to do?
 
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I agree about the pendulum swing, but it is a very disappointing outcome for the progressives. I'm glad somebody is having fun tonight. :2wave:

I'm sure you had much more fun than I did two years ago. :) Don't be bummed for too long. There'll be more dismay in my future and brighter day in yours no doubt.
 
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