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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    My quick takeaway on elections is that 2014 was 2010 on steroids--minorities, young people and women didn't vote.
    The very people who demand the Dems do their bidding but refuse to turn out.

    Why should Obama give away the rest of the party for people who won't vote?
    Again, I believe this is legacy time for Majority Leader McConnell.

    I finish with tears in my eyes as we just lost a student last night driving and two more are in critical condition according to my wife who just called me.
    I don't know if your 2010 analogy is correct. One should give it time to settle in. In 2010 the vote was against Pelosi and Reid more than the president. Against the ACA and the time spent on health care that was taken away from the economy and jobs. At least that was how I seen it.

    This election was against the president and his policies. On most issues he is above 50% in the negative. On the Economy 55% disapprove, Terrorism 55%,Ebola 51% disapprove, Health Care 57% disapprove, Foreign Policy 57%, ISIS 58%, Immigration 61% and so it goes.

    Back in 2010 the president was on the plus side of those that applied back then except health care.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We'll see. I do not have a warm and fuzzy on McConnell. It remains to be seen if he is just another Reid or as you say.
    Well, as I see it the warm fuzzies we see from Dem supporters today are simply the parroting of Obama's comments about McConnell yesterday. Does anyone believe that Obama would be speaking so warming about McConnell if the Democrats in the Senate hadn't just gotten trounced in the midterms? He certainly never seemed to find the time in the last 6 years to praise McConnell's leadership.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, as I see it the warm fuzzies we see from Dem supporters today are simply the parroting of Obama's comments about McConnell yesterday. Does anyone believe that Obama would be speaking so warming about McConnell if the Democrats in the Senate hadn't just gotten trounced in the midterms? He certainly never seemed to find the time in the last 6 years to praise McConnell's leadership.
    Being in the minority there was no need to praise McConnell. The president had Reid to run his interference. But the president could have worked more closely with Boehner. One only has to go back to Tip O'Neal and Reagan and to the behind the scenes of working together of Clinton and Gingrich.

    I think this whole election turned when the president said, "I may not be on the ballot, but my policies are." Until then Hagan, Nunn, Shaheen, Begich, Landrieu and perhaps a couple more had the lead in the polls. He certainly didn't do any favors to his side that was running in red states.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Democrats will wake up because they are ALWAYS asleep in the midterms. Bunch of lazy, apathetic bastards.
    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And this is what you are satisfied with and support leading the country? Hmm. Not sure I could.
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm talking about voters and their turnout. But I think you knew that. Besides, what good does it do to hop behind Republican leadership that is confident when it will confidently lead you off a cliff?
    Dunno about you, but I'd be concerned that the most prevalent constituent voting for your party is as quickly and easily described such as you have. All this with what's been described as a 'record ground game' to get them out to vote, and still fall this far short?

    Funny that you are claiming that it's the Republicans which 'will confidently lead you off a cliff', when that's exactly what's happened to the Democrats following Obama's lead. What more proof of this do you need besides the election results?



    You can tell that this was a serious concern in the mind of the Democrats campaigning, as they asked that Obama keep his distance from them. My, how fortunes have changed 180 degrees over just such a short while ago.

    In an interview on Sharpton's radio program, Obama said

    “These are folks who are strong allies and supporters of me, and I tell them, I said, ‘You know what, you do what you need to do to win. I will be responsible for making sure our voters turn out.’ ”
    Obama: Dem candidates avoiding me 'have supported my agenda' | TheHill

    Since Democratic voter turn out was as low as it was, I guess that'd be yet another failure of his to add to his list, and they just continue piling up. This one's significant in that it's damaging the Democratic brand, as we have seen.

    Man, I'm telling ya, the Democratic leaders need to get into his office and tell him to stop killing the Democratic party like he is, now that the electorate have gotten wise to him and his lying and craptastic policies. There is potential here for jeopardizing the 2016 presidential election for the Democrats if he keeps going like he is, i.e. his rhetoric and posturing to the Republican congressional leaders and his demand for Illegal Alien Amnesty, or he'll do it via Executive Order, and all the rest of his un-statesmen like behavior. No, he needs to learn from history, from the history of Clinton's pivot to the center when dealing with a Republican held congress. That'll lead to effective governing, but not his usual petulant behavior and attitude.

    Obama's continuing to damage the Democratic brand in the minds of the swing voter electorate, yet all of you deny this as even being possible. Wake up guys. He's putting you and the Democratic party behind the 8 ball, with an even longer time to recovery and reconstitution. He's safe as he'll never run again, and has nothing to lose, so don't count on him watching your back. You know he's not going to do that. He's going to arrogantly march forward to his drummer, and, as the picture above depicts, over the edge of the cliff, to greater Democratic party destruction. Yes, he's that arrogant, that narcissistic, and that self-centered.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You could be right, but they do have the benefit of a President who's clueless so they may still look good in comparison.
    They do have that advantage.
    It's the same advantage that the Democrats had back in '08.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I finish with tears in my eyes as we just lost a student last night driving and two more are in critical condition according to my wife who just called me.
    Really sorry to hear that, condolences to family and friends. Will pray the other two pull through and meet with a successful recovery.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They do have that advantage.
    It's the same advantage that the Democrats had back in '08.
    You mean 06 right? In 08 he was leaving... or were you talking about the same guy?

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Being in the minority there was no need to praise McConnell. The president had Reid to run his interference. But the president could have worked more closely with Boehner. One only has to go back to Tip O'Neal and Reagan and to the behind the scenes of working together of Clinton and Gingrich.

    I think this whole election turned when the president said, "I may not be on the ballot, but my policies are." Until then Hagan, Nunn, Shaheen, Begich, Landrieu and perhaps a couple more had the lead in the polls. He certainly didn't do any favors to his side that was running in red states.
    Well, if the goal is to work with the opposition in Congress then the President shouldn't have been giving stump speeches calling the opposition terrorists and hostage takers.

    If it takes losing everything for him to finally behave like a statesman then he should never have been president. His behavior now looks more like someone working through a 12 step program.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They do have that advantage.
    It's the same advantage that the Democrats had back in '08.
    I presume you mean '06, when they took control of the House with GWB as President.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, if the goal is to work with the opposition in Congress then the President shouldn't have been giving stump speeches calling the opposition terrorists and hostage takers.

    If it takes losing everything for him to finally behave like a statesman then he should never have been president. His behavior now looks more like someone working through a 12 step program.
    That's true, demonizing the opposition is not the way to go to get some of them to cooperate with you. I have said this many times in the past, successful presidents always reach across the aisle to someone they can work with. This president hasn't ever done that.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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