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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Mindset, maybe. But what I seen so far the two parties haven't work together for the last 6 years. That could change as you say, but I doubt it very much. At this juncture going on past history, experience, I fully expect McConnell to be a Republican version of Harry Reid. Party over country.

    But time will tell, I have been wrong before and will be wrong again. Rhetoric is cheap, most politicians always say the right things in a speech. That doesn't count, it is their actions that count. Time will tell.
    This was not a speech by McConnell--it was a wide-ranging press conference where he showed a superior grasp of the issues.
    Linc has a gut-feeling that McConnell, who has a history of working with VP Biden, wants to go down in history as a great Majority Leader.

    It would appear that immigration could derail all this positive feeling in my mind.
    Dems are correct to call for a vote in the House.
    Is Obama correct to threaten executive action if the House doesn't act?
    Again, I believe McConnell will squash Rubio, Cruz, Paul and Lee as the four little bugs they are.

    For me, I'm still too pissed-off at Blacks and Browns for not voting in Presidential year election numbers--again--just as in 2010 and 1994.
    Obama was damned if he did and damned if he didn't on immigration and many other issues--not saying he didn't make mistakes.

    I wonder how long this GOOD mod/con Democrat can continue to give so much time/energy to volunteering for people who don't vote.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    There can be no logical rationale for claiming those who lost didn't sufficiently embrace Obama and his policies. That's because those Democrats who lost were primarily in States that Obama carried in 2008, even though they were traditionally more conservative, and States that Obama lost to Romney in 2012 as the luster/novelty of voting for the first black President wore off and reality of his disastrous first term set in. Senate Democrats who got swept into Washington on the Obama wave, six years ago, got washed back out to sea this year.

    This is compounded by the fact that several States that are traditionally left leaning, such as Maryland and Massachusetts, elected Republican governors. Obama policies, embraced by these Democrats, were rejected even by left leaning electorates. Leading into the election, most pundits on the left were claiming that the Democrats would pick up a couple of governorships and yet they ended up losing a total of three, I think. That tells you as well that the left totally misread the mood of the electorate this time.

    This could be a very significant election moving forward if the Republicans who gained office and power don't blow it - not a sure thing.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I agree on Boehner, but I hope the GOP chooses someone else besides McConnell.
    No Senator in the GOP Senate can touch McConnell's grasp of the issues.
    I also am comforted by McConnell's work with Biden the last six years.

    I see McConnell as the bridge between gridlock and compromise WITHIN his party.
    He'll allow Boehner to save face, as he did today in a combined op-ed.

    I've really come to respect his essence as a master politician.
    He now has the full faith, credit and good will of this Proud American and GOOD Democrat .
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This could be a very significant election moving forward if the Republicans who gained office and power don't blow it - not a sure thing.
    They have a long and proud history of blowing it.

    They blew it in the last presidential election.
    They blew it when they had both houses of Congress and the presidency.

    They'll blow it again, just wait and see.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    If the Republicans are reading this as a mandate, they are 100% wrong. This was a hold you nose and vote for the least disliked party/candidate. At least that was my take on it. Watching CNN this morning, they stated the President's approval rating at 44%, the Democratic Party at 42% and the Republican Party at 39%. Approval of congress at 13%, I forget the exact favorable rating for Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell and Reid, but they were in the teens and twenties percent.

    CNN went on and on. The fact was neither party and the president, congress is well liked. But the president was the face of the election. Then according to the exit polls Republicans won the white vote 60-38 vs. Romney receiving 57% back in 2012. Republicans lost the black vote 89-10 but in 2012 they had lost it 94-5. Hispanics, Republicans lost them 36-62 whereas Romney lost them 27-72. Women went Democratic 51-47 vs. 53-45 in 2012 and so it went.
    My quick takeaway on elections is that 2014 was 2010 on steroids--minorities, young people and women didn't vote.
    The very people who demand the Dems do their bidding but refuse to turn out.

    Why should Obama give away the rest of the party for people who won't vote?
    Again, I believe this is legacy time for Majority Leader McConnell.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They have a long and proud history of blowing it.

    They blew it in the last presidential election.
    They blew it when they had both houses of Congress and the presidency.

    They'll blow it again, just wait and see.
    You could be right, but they do have the benefit of a President who's clueless so they may still look good in comparison.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And this is what you are satisfied with and support leading the country? Hmm. Not sure I could.
    I'm talking about voters and their turnout. But I think you knew that. Besides, what good does it do to hop behind Republican leadership that is confident when it will confidently lead you off a cliff?
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Since this a "mid-term results" thread...

    I think when the dust settles, the Republicans will hold 54 seats in the senate and 244 seats in congress... Anyone disagree with that?

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This was not a speech by McConnell--it was a wide-ranging press conference where he showed a superior grasp of the issues.
    Linc has a gut-feeling that McConnell, who has a history of working with VP Biden, wants to go down in history as a great Majority Leader.

    It would appear that immigration could derail all this positive feeling in my mind.
    Dems are correct to call for a vote in the House.
    Is Obama correct to threaten executive action if the House doesn't act?
    Again, I believe McConnell will squash Rubio, Cruz, Paul and Lee as the four little bugs they are.

    For me, I'm still too pissed-off at Blacks and Browns for not voting in Presidential year election numbers--again--just as in 2010 and 1994.
    Obama was damned if he did and damned if he didn't on immigration and many other issues--not saying he didn't make mistakes.

    I wonder how long this GOOD mod/con Democrat can continue to give so much time/energy to volunteering for people who don't vote.
    I hope you know Beaudreax--he's great GOP--of the Goldwater variety.
    Linc needs to retool his focus on the people who matter to him--like you.

    I was proud to have a few beers last night with some American Legion guys and
    my new political friend who was stationed in Germany when JFK was assassinated .
    I am not sure if I shared with you some of the exit polls CNN had the morning after concerning the minority vote vs. Romney and 2012.
    Blacks voted 89% for Democrats last Tuesday vs. 95% in 2012
    Hispanics voted 38% for Republicans last Tuesday vs. 27% for Romney in 2012
    Whites voted 60% for Republicans last Tuesday vs. 59% for Romney in 2012.

    But you are right about the numbers, whites made up 75% of the vote last Tuesday vs. 72% for 2012.

    Biden could become a key player with McConnell, they have known each other forever and they respect each other. On immigration, I am still a big fan of the Gary Johnson plan which by the way Rubio stole a lot of it from him in his plan. But for any immigration plan or reform to work, our laws must be enforced which they are not being at this point in time.

    It could be the president will over reach on immigration, especially if he grants amnesty on his own. The Constitution is quite clear on that. Article I Section 8, congress shall have the power to establish a uniform rule on naturalization. Of course the lawyese language has to be attached and understanding of that.

    I suppose I will wait and see.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    No Senator in the GOP Senate can touch McConnell's grasp of the issues.
    I also am comforted by McConnell's work with Biden the last six years.

    I see McConnell as the bridge between gridlock and compromise WITHIN his party.
    He'll allow Boehner to save face, as he did today in a combined op-ed.

    I've really come to respect his essence as a master politician.
    He now has the full faith, credit and good will of this Proud American and GOOD Democrat .
    We'll see. I do not have a warm and fuzzy on McConnell. It remains to be seen if he is just another Reid or as you say.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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