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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Aww gimme a break TD, Obama does not hate guns or gun owners, and everybody except coal miners and owners hate the coal industry! Shame on you..
    Nah Obama doesn't hate gun owners

    he blocked the import of thousands of highly desirable militarily obsolete MI Garands claiming they would be MILITARY WEAPONS ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA even though the US GOVERNMENT sold us citizens over a MILLION of these same rifles and the number used in crimes is about the same as the number of people killed by escaped zoo polar bears

    he appointed two justices to the Supreme court who are hard core gun haters

    he wanted the "assault weapon ban" reinstated

    so you are wrong

    I don't hate the coal industry. and I can afford higher electrical rates

    can you?



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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I think that history will be very kind to this President. He set out certain goals and he accomplished most of them. Bush left office with what, a 35% approval rating. Obama is at 42% so not that bad but it will go up again. I understand that the President's party never does well in the midterms, but this was a disaster far beyond anyone's expectations and I do hold many of the candidates responsible!
    Don't presume too much. The thing about history is that it is unwieldy and opinions change through the decades, both up and down. There's rarely a fixed course for Presidents in terms of perception. History isn't written in stone once a given subject has a fairly large historiography behind it. Each generation critiques the viewpoint of the previous generation, and the history is written through the lens of the present. It's a bit presumptuous to declare unilaterally that one President or the other will be seen positively. It's easy for partisans to do that, but they aren't the ones doing the research and the writing decades from now.

    I have noticed a more favorable opinion of Bush develop in the last few years. I am somewhat sympathetic toward that. However, I also do not know at all whether his foreign policy or his domestic policy will become the centerpiece to the broader historiography, and I do not know how that will be viewed decades from now or if there will be waves of opinion (like Nixon has experienced thus far). Even if one or the other does become the centerpiece, that too can and maybe will change with time.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I, personally, am against it, but will leave it up to those who will be impacted by those nasty tar sands..
    Well, liberals are much more likely to be against it. In our area, even with our discomfort from the oil boom, the Keystone pipeline is something that is overwhelmingly supported by both Parties.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That's a highly debatable point. You could be right in that they could potentially shore up more of the base who did not turn out (African Americans, Hispanic/Latino, and young people). The problem with this statement is that your core constituency for the Democratic Party is completely unreliable for midterm elections and that's been a long-term trend.


    Certain areas had large turnouts, but you are right, because the majority of voters are misinformed and pay little attention to politics until the last week or so and then only to watch the TV ads. A candidate has to make them understand how their own lives could be personally affected, otherwise they have no interest.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It does not. False equivalence fail.

    I don't think so. I've watched some of those hearings.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Certain areas had large turnouts, but you are right, because the majority of voters are misinformed and pay little attention to politics until the last week or so and then only to watch the TV ads. A candidate has to make them understand how their own lives could be personally affected, otherwise they have no interest.
    It's easy with the Presidency. I mean if you have your guy in there for president, then you know, nothing will get done without going through them. I mean, nothing is going to happen in congress without Obama's help... unless it's some veto proof majority that get's passed, in which case, Obama was just an idiot.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No more so than the 21st amendment guarantees that you will not live in a dry county, be denied service based upon your age or have the taxpayers pay your bar tab.


    Excuse me, but I don't see your point.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It was't just Kentucky where DEMs stayed home--it was all 50 states--as epic if not more so than 2010.
    DEMs need the same civil war as GOPs went through but worse.

    You should have noticed the TEA-party and Libertarians-right have now been neutered and marginilized by RNC chief Priebus .


    The last person in the world that I want to listen to is Priebus! I can't stand him. How has he neutered or marginalized the tea party? I doubt it. Cruz now has more friends than before--Joni and Gardner to name just two.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I don't think so. I've watched some of those hearings.
    I doubt it.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you could have written in Madame DeFarge or Emma Goldman

    Why bother? I could have written in Juanita.

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