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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I disagree with your McConnell assessment. I can't stand Harry Reid but McConnell is the idiot on the flip side of the same coin. He's just terrible.



    This I can agree with. Cruz is inflammatory and the GOP has enough of that in the House. If within their control of the House and the Senate... the Senate starts acting as inflammatory as the House as Cruz is wont to do... I think it'd blow up in the GOP's faces come the general election.
    Well, we'll see over the next two years. If McConnell and Boehner sit down and work out an agenda for moving forward that's rational and avoids the social conservative nonsense, I can see them accomplishing a lot. Boehner, with additional members in his caucus will be better able to get a majority even without some of the "inflammatory" members you speak of in the House.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Grim. Well Debbie Wassermann Schultz won her Seat......did anyone run against her? We should have had a woman Repub take her on.

    Alan Grayson won his seat again too.
    Geez... Grayson won?

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This song has been stuck in my head since last night.


    We went with the Red Tsunami and the Historic Sweep.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-ele...post1063946491

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, we'll see over the next two years. If McConnell and Boehner sit down and work out an agenda for moving forward that's rational and avoids the social conservative nonsense, I can see them accomplishing a lot. Boehner, with additional members in his caucus will be better able to get a majority even without some of the "inflammatory" members you speak of in the House.
    Very true. I don't know how the new members' fit on the looney meter but if they are more moderate, I can see some things getting done.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    I just wanted to add that one of the very best results last evening was watching Charlie Crist go down in flames. There is no greater example of a slime-bucket POS worm of a politician than Charlie Crist and although it may seem hateful, I hope the slug slithers under a rock and disappears for good.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    We went with the Red Tsunami and the Historic Sweep.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-ele...post1063946491
    I can't believe I posted that video, and 4 minutes later Rush Limbaugh opened his show by playing it.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This song has been stuck in my head since last night.

    Greetings, Grim17.

    That guy is superb! I'm impressed at how well he can reflexively react to changes going on around him, and still continue to stay upright and balanced! Perfect song to make your point!

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Geez... Grayson won?
    Yep, and somehow Lil Debbie did too.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    While much of what you're saying has some merit, it's not really on point (at least in response to what I was saying). My point isn't that billionaires are the problem. My point is that our congress has devolved into a group of people who are working for bureaucrats, billionaires, and special interest groups. Not people. While you might not think that funneling millions of dollars into a congressional campaign has much influence in the outcome, the congressmen themselves disagree. That's why they vote the way their donors want them to vote.

    That's the problem right there. Term limits would help to some degree, but you'd still have entire parties owned in part by certain unions, or corporations, or members of the executive branch. Campaign finance reform is what fixes some of that. Then there's no reward for voting against a bill that would fine the Koch Brothers for emitting 7 million tonnes of poison directly into the ozone (that's not a real example in case you were preparing to argue that point).

    I'm also not saying that the Koch Brothers won the senate for the GOP. While that may be somewhat true, all I'm saying that whoever has control is doomed to be despised because they don't actually try to work for average Americans. The only support they get is from the "lesser of two evils" crowd and the thoroughly brainwashed. It would be nice to see a real effort to break the chains, but nobody wants to spoil a good thing. A good thing for members of congress, that is, and one of the worst things in the history of this country for you and me.
    The reason I don't think the problem with Washington is all that you describe is because they aren't doing anything. I mean six years ago when Obama took office and he was forcing through Obamacare despite the American people screaming against it, well then that is clearly one example. But even in that, we like to champion the Average American but, you wanna know the truth of what the Average American is?



    I'm not as cynical when it comes to humanity, but I do think there is some truth. There's a reason why we don't have a democracy and instead the democratic republic that we have. The Average American doesn't have the time to go deep in the woods to find out the pros and cons on things like quantitative easing or time to read ten thousand page plus documents. That is SUPPOSED to be why we elect officials that share at the core values that we find most important. Of course, you keep electing career politicians that don't know their ass from their nose, you're going to get a lot of candidates that follow special interests because all they care about is re-election and not getting stuff done.

    Hell look at races like North Carolina, Iowa, and Colorado, where Superpacs spent more money (2014 Outside Spending, by Super PAC) bashing Republicans but they still lost. What money does is bring exposure to a candidate, and in that case it can sway an election most assuredly. Lastly though, as that link I sent you illustrates, despite all the hand wringing Democrats do, money at this point is pretty even, with both sides having their big money. Put it to you another way, if me and you both have enough money to support our candidates by and put out equal number of TV ads, then it's not so much about the ads but their effectiveness isn't it?

    Bottom line, this election came down to how you feel Obama is doing, plain and simple. In 2016, it'll be about how the Republicans are doing.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I'm sure it will not surprise you that I am a big fan of Elizabeth Warren and hope that Hillary runs her as VP...
    Really? I thought when it said Progressive next to lean, that meant you were going to sell me car insurance :P.

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