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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    awww
    So... I'm guessing Reid is pissed.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    In other words, the republican Elizabeth Warren.

    I'm sure it will not surprise you that I am a big fan of Elizabeth Warren and hope that Hillary runs her as VP...

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it's not impossible. He's smart, however. We'll see how strategic a thinker he is, and the extent to which he can balance prepping for 2016.


    He is already hinting at an "impeach Obama" agenda.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    He is already hinting at an "impeach Obama" agenda.
    I would be deeply skeptical that he would try that. Even when asked about Obamacare he said have one single repeal-in-full bill just for the symbolism, and then move on to what everyone else in the GOP is saying, which is start to individually repeal the deeply unpopular sections (such as the mandate) and dare Obama to veto them.


    There is going to be some intra-party bickering. But I think you are pinning your hopes on a level of conflict that we aren't going to see.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Anywho, looks like the polls were way off:

    From Nate Silver's five thirty eight blog:


    Senators




    and Governors




    dang.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I'm sure it will not surprise you that I am a big fan of Elizabeth Warren and hope that Hillary runs her as VP...
    VP isn't so bad, considering Hillary has been seen as abandoning the base over the past 8 years, but is Hillary's message "I'm running a more moderated platform, but don't worry--there's some bones for you" or is it "here we are and we are going to go beyond what you've seen over the past decade"? The former seems smarter to me and the latter seems pointless when your party is somewhat deflated when it was perceived as bullish on liberalism.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would be deeply skeptical that he would try that. Even when asked about Obamacare he said have one single repeal-in-full bill just for the symbolism, and then move on to what everyone else in the GOP is saying, which is start to individually repeal the deeply unpopular sections (such as the mandate) and dare Obama to veto them.


    There is going to be some intra-party bickering. But I think you are pinning your hopes on a level of conflict that we aren't going to see.
    No kidding. Impeachment proceedings are absolutely wasteful. I don't expect an actual push for that at all. You would eliminate most of your political legitimacy and spend all of your energy trying to topple an entire administration. Meanwhile you could have promoted a full legislative platform--even if you can't get most of it enacted in any way. That would work in your favor for 2016 and impeachment talk would not.
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would be deeply skeptical that he would try that. Even when asked about Obamacare he said have one single repeal-in-full bill just for the symbolism, and then move on to what everyone else in the GOP is saying, which is start to individually repeal the deeply unpopular sections (such as the mandate) and dare Obama to veto them.


    There is going to be some intra-party bickering. But I think you are pinning your hopes on a level of conflict that we aren't going to see.


    Well, time will tell as I do think that there will be conflict and he will be a thorn in Mc
    Connell's side.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    VP isn't so bad, considering Hillary has been seen as abandoning the base over the past 8 years, but is Hillary's message "I'm running a more moderated platform, but don't worry--there's some bones for you" or is it "here we are and we are going to go beyond what you've seen over the past decade"? The former seems smarter to me and the latter seems pointless when your party is somewhat deflated when it was perceived as bullish on liberalism.


    I don't know, but I'm sure that tonights results will define or redefine any candidates perception of a presidential run in 2016.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I understand the need to separate and not be lock-step. However, he shouldn't go too far against the grain, otherwise they can tank their chances in two years. This insurgency crap is self-defeating.
    Democrat light isn't working. Cruz keeps it real.

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