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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

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It was fun!

I enjoyed the night keeping track of which of my predictions were correct and which ones I missed. I had Hagan winning North Carolina, Georgia going to a runoff but with Purdue winning the runoff. So I don't know if I should put Georgia into a miss like North Carolina or not. Virginia is still out, but it looks like Warner will pull it off, so too in Alaska, Begich seems gone but it will take a few more days to make sure.
 
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That would be McConnell from last decade on legislation though you've developed a one-way mind with your Reform .

No. I know what happened ten years or there about ago. I didn't like it then as I am pro filibuster if pro is the right word. I believe in protecting minority rights to include minority party rights. But I do think a lot of Democrats look at things through Political correctness eyes. It is words that count, not actions. Under PC rules of today you are better off just walking up and killing someone than calling that someone a name. Which reminds me, I owe Power Rob an explanation why I think the filibuster should stay.
 
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Heya Pero :2wave: .....How did I do with that Senate and the Pollsters I was using? ;)

North Carolina was a tough call and I said so. I gave it to Hagan, you Tillis. But all in all things went pretty much like I said it would. You did have NC right, but I got NH.
 
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MMC's posts seem the most consistently guilty of applying lowbrow sports commentary analysis to what should be a societal reflection on our shared future.

I can only imagine it difficult for him to post while wearing an oversized novelty foam finger.

There should be room for humor even in politics.
 
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Based on the outcome, not only with the Senate races last night, but also reflected in the Governor's races, America sent a strong message in my opinion to Obama, and progressives...And that is that his/their policies have failed.
 
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I am also excited to see the Republican plan for reforming Obamacare. It is going to be an exciting year of putting your money where your mouth is.
 
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I am also excited to see the Republican plan for reforming Obamacare. It is going to be an exciting year of putting your money where your mouth is.

I think you've used the correct terminology there..."reform"....There has been lots of mischaracterization of just what it is leaders like Boehner, and McConnell will do now given the power they have. Will they start using the power of the purse like they should have been all along in the House, or will Boehner be cowed by the temper tantrum cries of racism that will ramp up from the supporters of Obama when he doesn't get his way? Will the Senate under McConnell grow a pair and reel in the out of control, power grabbing POTUS?

We shall see.
 
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I am also excited to see the Republican plan for reforming Obamacare. It is going to be an exciting year of putting your money where your mouth is.

What I find interesting is in states where a sizeable majority (55% plus) of its citizens were against Obamacare and the Democratic senator ignored the wishes of the people they supposedly represented in order to vote for it, most are pretty much gone.
AK Begich – is losing and when the results are final, he will be gone
AR Lincoln & Pryor – Both gone, defeated in the next election after the ACA was passed
CO Bennett & Udall – Bennett survived, Udall is gone
IN Bayh – He retired without seeking re-election
LA Landrieu – In runoff in December at which time she will be gone
MO McCaskill – she survived only because the Republicans ran a nut in the form of Aiken. She had a 62% disapproval rating, Aiken had a 71% disapproval rating. With anyone but Aiken running against her, she would have been long gone, but such is life in politics.
MT Tester survived, Baucus retired instead of facing re-election
NE Nelson – retired instead of facing re-election
NC Hagan – Defeated by Tillis
SD Johnson – retired instead of facing re-election
VA Warner – looks like he will survive by the skin of his teeth.
WV Byrd and Rockefeller – Both retired instead of seeking re-election
 
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It should also be noted that many people on the right also came out in "red" states and supported some "progressive" initiatives, such as raising the minimum wage. This reflects on a general public that is more bipartisan than many of the politicians who govern them.


That's exactly what happened here in Nebraska. Straight red ticket for the most part but the minimum wage did get passed and here in Omaha a huge bond for the public schools passed. There is only one possible upset for a house seat, longtime do nothing Rep Lee Terry had been running some vicious attack ads and it may have bitten him in the butt. Supposedly though there are still some absentee votes to count so it's not official yet.
 
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I enjoyed the night keeping track of which of my predictions were correct and which ones I missed. I had Hagan winning North Carolina, Georgia going to a runoff but with Purdue winning the runoff. So I don't know if I should put Georgia into a miss like North Carolina or not. Virginia is still out, but it looks like Warner will pull it off, so too in Alaska, Begich seems gone but it will take a few more days to make sure.

You called NH right, although it was very close, and very back and forth. They called the race too early. I knew what towns/counties were still out when they called it, but the thought process here is "How Manchester goes, so goes New Hampshire". They ended up waking back the race call for a few hours, but late last night, Brown conceded. I was at his event last night. We got home at 2 am. It was a well fought race for Brown. Manchester is just a big Democratic stronghold, and she got what she needed there (as well as in Concord and Portsmouth). Props to you for never caving in, as I did, to the polls which really showed Brown having a 50% chance of winning.
 
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One thing I noticed last night, and wonder if anyone else did as well. That is, while watching the results come in, when the breakdowns started to be shown they would have the state on the screen then start going to the individual counties, and showing what the vote was, and how much reported. One thing I noticed is that in the red counties of a state let's say with 70% of the vote reported, the red counties would pretty much match how much reported in the state, and the blue counties would show <1% reported...We just had weeks of debate on fraud, and I think as a simplistic look at stuff like that, it was clear if only in perception.
 
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North Carolina was a tough call and I said so. I gave it to Hagan, you Tillis. But all in all things went pretty much like I said it would. You did have NC right, but I got NH.

Yeah, and I had Colorado, Iowa, Alaska, down for the Win.....I didn't expect the larger numbers at the end. But no run off in Georgia. Pretty much everything I showed you came out the way it played out. Kansas was the only question mark. Looks like it will be 9 Senate Seats won. 10 House seats with 2 pending.....and we picked up 3 governorships with a couple pending. We will hold 34.

Also the Demos lost 4 house Seats in New York and the Governorship to Illinois.....now that was awesome.

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My point is I wouldn't be jumping up and down talking about converting people to the Republican cause. Obama's ratings are in the tank, but so are Republicans. It just so happened on this night, a night where most of the electorate that votes democrat doesn't come out, hated Obama's policies more than Republicans. When's the last time the Republicans won the popular vote?


Another person who doesn't understand that polls on Congress are irrelevant. The big liberal states will always carry national polls. You may or may not like my Representative but it doesn't matter, you don't vote for that Rep. Obama's polls matter because everyone has the opportunity to vote for the Pres.
 
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While the Republicans have to be careful how they act...say, if they come out all gangbusters against Obamacare, that would be a bad thing...a lot also depends on how the Congressional Democrats end up reacting to whatever the Republicans try to send to Obama. That's the big question in my mind right now.

Will the Democrats...and Obama...try to work with the Republicans? Or will they be obstructionists?

It will be easy to see who the obstructionists really are now that both houses of congress are held by Republicans and the White House by a Democrat. It will also be interesting to see if Republicans extend the "nuclear option" beyond appointments votes and move to simple majority votes on substantive bills as well. If they do, a flood of legislation will make it to the President's desk and Democrats in the Senate will not want to be seen as voting against popular measures.
 
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And how do you think the Republicans should act?

I think Republicans should act on legislation the American people want, not on social conservative hot potatoes that Americans hate seeing Washington waste time on.

Get some legislation on infrastructure spending - some legislation on tort reform - some legislation on employment incentives - some legislation on tax reform. If Republicans concentrate on what government is supposed to be doing, to the benefit of all Americans, they will have the support of the American people. If they let jackasses like Cruz highjack the process, they're doomed.
 
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Not answering for CJ, a suggestion only. It appears you feel I violated some etiquette. In the future, I will take that into consideration when interacting with you. :)

No etiquette violations here - you didn't speak for me, but that doesn't preclude you from offering your opinion any time you feel like it - in fact, I'd encourage it!!
 
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I enjoyed the night keeping track of which of my predictions were correct and which ones I missed. I had Hagan winning North Carolina, Georgia going to a runoff but with Purdue winning the runoff. So I don't know if I should put Georgia into a miss like North Carolina or not. Virginia is still out, but it looks like Warner will pull it off, so too in Alaska, Begich seems gone but it will take a few more days to make sure.

Good morning Pero

Personally, I think you did pretty well, even though you were a little too differential to some Democrat incumbents until later in the process as we got closer to election day. I don't blame you for that, since incumbency is a pretty valuable factor in close races - just look at Roberts "shellacking" of Orman in Kansas when many were claiming it was very close and Roberts may lose.

I enjoyed your take on the subject and hope both you and I are still around for 2016's fun.
 
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Results are in for California. Yes, the state will sell bonds for water infrastructure (no surprise given the drought, but how is Sacramento going to pay for it?) No, no more Indian casinos on non Indian land, no, can't raise the amount of lawsuits in for malpractice, yes, the state has to have a "rainy day fund", yes, we'll reduce sentences for some misdemeanors.

We'll send the same representative to Congress, since Congress is doing such a wonderful job (yep, sarcasm) and so the incumbents keep getting sent back. We'll keep our beloved (by some) governor and lieutenant governor, for whom I did not vote.

This area's Republican state senator, who snuck in by running mid term in a special election in which most of the Democrats stayed home, won reelection. At least there will be one voice against the carbon tax and the high speed rail, but one won't be enough anyway.
 
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Results are in for California. Yes, the state will sell bonds for water infrastructure (no surprise given the drought, but how is Sacramento going to pay for it?) No, no more Indian casinos on non Indian land, no, can't raise the amount of lawsuits in for malpractice, yes, the state has to have a "rainy day fund", yes, we'll reduce sentences for some misdemeanors.

We'll send the same representative to Congress, since Congress is doing such a wonderful job (yep, sarcasm) and so the incumbents keep getting sent back. We'll keep our beloved (by some) governor and lieutenant governor, for whom I did not vote.

This area's Republican state senator, who snuck in by running mid term in a special election in which most of the Democrats stayed home, won reelection. At least there will be one voice against the carbon tax and the high speed rail, but one won't be enough anyway.

I'm glad I don't live in California. Living in Colorado is bad enough.
 
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I'm glad I don't live in California. Living in Colorado is bad enough.
The problem with Colorado is that there are far too many Californians living there now. :)
 
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The problem with Colorado is that there are far too many Californians living there now. :)

That's the same thing they say in Oregon, Washington, Montana, probably a few others as well.

The problem with California is there are too many Californians living here, some 35 million at the last count.
 
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The problem with Colorado is that there are far too many Californians living there now. :)

That's the same thing they say in Oregon, Washington, Montana, probably a few others as well.

The problem with California is there are too many Californians living here, some 35 million at the last count.

<Sniff> Pretty soon there won't be enough Californians IN California. :shrug:

Hey California! Keep you fruits and nuts in your own state! :2mad:
 
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<Sniff> Pretty soon there won't be enough Californians IN California. :shrug:

Hey California! Keep you fruits and nuts in your own state! :2mad:

Come drive on LA freeways sometime and then tell us if there aren't enough Californians in California.

and they all drive cars, some not very well, but they all drive cars.
 
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