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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

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Electioneering versus legislation---Dems lost on both counts the last two years as per public perception.

GOP pundits are now admitting they're amazed Dems didn't brag about the economy.
Though you must have noticed how many conservatives still debated the economy in a negative way--that's politics and they won.

GOPs started running anti-ACA ads last November and Dems allowed themselves to be defined for several months with no answer.
Just like Hillary right now--the GOP is already off to a running start for 2016.

IMHO, Dems are now reduced to trivial pursuit.
Disorganized, Despondent and completely Defeated with no idea what to do.

Just two short years after reelecting their own President with very short coattails.
Even winning Dems ran selfish campaigns with an every man for himself attitude .



Yes, I agree with you. I hope you are feeling a bit better... Such sad news.
 
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Couldn't find where you put the OP, but wanted to wish you the best of luck.

I wish God's speed to the new Majority Leader for the sake of our nation.
I was very impressed with his news conference and watched it all intently.
Mitch showed a great grasp of all the issues and I believe this is his dream job.

I've been saying whoa to any Republican in DC who crosses the ML.
He is also blessed with a wonderful partner in life who brings much to the table with her own expertise.
I hope to be talking issues with you in the future for the betterment of our Nation.

Tonight it has become very clear to me there is a complete separation between electioneering and legislative issues .
 
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No OP--just needed to talk with people who I have posted with in the past with my sadness.

Tried to include talk of McConnell in every post to at least speak to the thread.
I have a gut feeling he will do a great job and will squash anyone who gets in his way, either party .

Couldn't find where you put the OP, but wanted to wish you the best of luck.
 
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Electioneering versus legislation---Dems lost on both counts the last two years as per public perception.

GOP pundits are now admitting they're amazed Dems didn't brag about the economy.
Though you must have noticed how many conservatives still debated the economy in a negative way--that's politics and they won.

GOPs started running anti-ACA ads last November and Dems allowed themselves to be defined for several months with no answer.
Just like Hillary right now--the GOP is already off to a running start for 2016.

IMHO, Dems are now reduced to trivial pursuit.
Disorganized, Despondent and completely Defeated with no idea what to do.

Just two short years after reelecting their own President with very short coattails.
Even winning Dems ran selfish campaigns with an every man for himself attitude .



Yes, I agree with you. I hope you are feeling a bit better... Such sad news.
 
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Hell look at races like North Carolina, Iowa, and Colorado, where Superpacs spent more money (2014 Outside Spending, by Super PAC) bashing Republicans but they still lost. What money does is bring exposure to a candidate, and in that case it can sway an election most assuredly. Lastly though, as that link I sent you illustrates, despite all the hand wringing Democrats do, money at this point is pretty even, with both sides having their big money. Put it to you another way, if me and you both have enough money to support our candidates by and put out equal number of TV ads, then it's not so much about the ads but their effectiveness isn't it?

Bottom line, this election came down to how you feel Obama is doing, plain and simple. In 2016, it'll be about how the Republicans are doing.

Well, in Iowa, millions more was spent on the GOP effort, but obviously that isn't really the point.

Again, much of what you say is all well and good, but you have to remember that sometimes inaction is what is beneficial to the big donors. Increased federal oversight in certain areas (for example, the bills that went after for-profit colleges and were killed in committee) is bad for business, and a lot of it is guys like the Koch Bros trying to make sure that there aren't any new laws or regulations that will slow down their profits. How do you think health insurance went unchanged for decades, even as it became the most expensive and one of the least efficient health care systems in the world? People tend to get addicted to pork.

I never said that money ensures that you'll win an election. I also never said that anti-Obama sentiment played no part in the election results. I just said that it's partly a big joke and the men and women in congress aren't working for us at all.
 
I don't think that comment was directed to you, but just let me say that your 401k is doing pretty dam good, isn't it?

Comments that you want directed should be conducted in PM mode, other than that you are in open forum, which means that anyone can comment on them. But, as for how the investments are doing, I am not saying that they haven't preformed well during Obama's term, but rather that they are doing well because of funny money injected into the system. When that stops, so do the gains....Why do you think that the Fed won't fully take away the phoney money? That performance is not due to anything positive Obama has done for the system, but rather an illusion created out of yet another historically flawed policy. One that progressive socialists never learn the lesson of.
 
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I finish with tears in my eyes as we just lost a student last night driving and two more are in critical condition according to my wife who just called me.

Awfully sorry to hear that man...Teachers often have as much emotionally invested in kids just like parents...My condolences...
 
His record and accomplishments are a helluva lot better than that! I cannot list them all, but we all know what they are even if you don't agree with them! As far as that red line in the sand, I was not pleased about that, but will give him credit for keeping us out of another full scale war.

Of course you cannot list them because they don't exist. The people voted in this past election based upon the Obama record. You really should do research at non partisan sites like BLS.gov, BEA.gov, and the U.S. Treasury to find the results that really affect all Americans. You don't think unemployment, debt, and national security are major results that affect individuals?
 
You are missing my point. They did not have to embrace Obama, but they should have embraced the policies that THEY voted for, and it seems that the only people who like and embrace Obama care are those that have it!

Those policies were IMMENSELY UNPOPULAR and some listed as some of the primary reason voters turned out to vote for Republicans. And your solution is "You needed to tie yourself MORE to those policies"? Man, it must be fun to live in the fantasy world you're operating in, but sadly most of us don't have that luxury. Again I ask, do you have any kind of evidence what so ever to back up your assertion that democrats would've done better by embracing the policies they voted for? Because pretty much every piece of evidence I've seen...from exit polling to polls taken before hand to the campaign messages of republicans to the negative impact Obama's support had...basically says your suggestoin is non-sensical.
 
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Comments that you want directed should be conducted in PM mode, other than that you are in open forum, which means that anyone can comment on them. But, as for how the investments are doing, I am not saying that they haven't preformed well during Obama's term, but rather that they are doing well because of funny money injected into the system. When that stops, so do the gains....Why do you think that the Fed won't fully take away the phoney money? That performance is not due to anything positive Obama has done for the system, but rather an illusion created out of yet another historically flawed policy. One that progressive socialists never learn the lesson of.

Obama does not run the economy.

Your stocks and mine have been doing rather well of late because the economy is recovering, and because most of the recovery is going to the supply side. People who don't own stocks and who work from payday to payday aren't doing so well, but those of us who own a piece of America via the stock exchange, even a small piece, have been doing OK.

After the election, when we (most likely, IMO) will have a Republican POTUS, that person won't run the economy either. The stock market will still have its ups and downs, of course, but will likely still perform well enough that the money we have in the market will be better than what we've put into passbook savings. Gold may or may not do well. I'm predicting that it will not, as it has been advertised into an artificial high and is likely to adjust downward pretty soon.
 
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Awfully sorry to hear that man...Teachers often have as much emotionally invested in kids just like parents...My condolences...

Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts j-mac.
It means a lot to me to find solace with Veterans like you since my Dad was 22 years Air Force and 8 more Civil Service.

I still can't wrap my head around any reasoning as to why these things keep happening.
In 1976, when I experienced my first loss as a first-year Teacher, I made a conscious decision to NEVER write down the names or how these losses happened.
You can imagine how I must revisit this decision time and again, as with this past week.

Please know how bad I feel due to my personality belligerence in defending Democrats.
I feel the attacks were over-the-top and this prevented me from showing who I am on the issues.

I take things too personal and haven't been able to separate electioneering with solving issues.
I was an asshole on DP on Tuesday night but I am better now and wanting to move forward with you and others.

One of my best friends on DP right now is Republican Beaudreax.
He worked in Illinois after our tornadoes an hour from where I live.
He very much helped our communities get back on their feet--this is why I believe there is so much overlap between Real life and internet life.

Before I head out for the day, including stops at the school, I'm heartened by the jobs numbers today.
I just don't get why these numbers continue to get shot down by conservatives but must start reading what you guys say when done tactfully.
I also must stop taking things personally and realize with some it is just politics and move on.

Once again, thank you and know your positivity drives with me today .
 
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Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts j-mac.
It means a lot to me to find solace with Veterans like you since my Dad was 22 years Air Force and 8 more Civil Service.

I still can't wrap my head around any reasoning as to why these things keep happening.
In 1976, when I experienced my first loss as a first-year Teacher, I made a conscious decision to NEVER write down the names or how these losses happened.
You can imagine how I must revisit this decision time and again, as with this past week.

Please know how bad I feel due to my personality belligerence in defending Democrats.
I feel the attacks were over-the-top and this prevented me from showing who I am on the issues.

I take things too personal and haven't been able to separate electioneering with solving issues.
I was an asshole on DP on Tuesday night but I am better now and wanting to move forward with you and others.

One of my best friends on DP right now is Republican Beaudreax.
He worked in Illinois after our tornadoes an hour from where I live.
He very much helped our communities get back on their feet--this is why I believe there is so much overlap between Real life and internet life.

Before I head out for the day, including stops at the school, I'm heartened by the jobs numbers today.
I just don't get why these numbers continue to get shot down by conservatives but must start reading what you guys say when done tactfully.
I also must not taking things personally and realize with some it is just politics and move on.

Once again, thank you and know your positivity drives with me today .

Please also accept my sincere condolences for the tragedy that has occurred in your area. I know how difficult these times are as I am the head of a grief ministry in my Church and deal with losses every day including some very close to me. I lost my wife last year and have been struggling to overcome that loss for almost two years now. There is a reason for these tragedies to occur and one of these days we will find out that reason. Until that day believe me those of us who have lost someone close understand your grief although your grief is indeed personal as is mine.

God bless you and all the students in the school along with the families of those lost and severely injured
 
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Please also accept my sincere condolences for the tragedy that has occurred in your area.
I know how difficult these times are as I am the head of a grief ministry in my Church and deal with losses every day including some very close to me.
Conservative--I look forward to our future discussions on politics.
This was an amazingly moving post from you to me.

Real life people like you on DP continue to help me build my inner strength--
an inner strength I will need in the coming months to help the kids positively through external strength.

I can tell you of similar situations as your ministry in the future where real life people have responded as you have due to real life losses.
You are a great man for doing this.

I lost my wife last year and have been struggling to overcome that loss for almost two years now.
There is a reason for these tragedies to occur and one of these days we will find out that reason.
Until that day believe me those of us who have lost someone close understand your grief although your grief is indeed personal as is mine.

How difficult it must have been for you to share your own loss and you have my deepest sympathies--you are now a part of my soul.
I can't even imagine your loss--though you would counsel me that I could dig deep down to find the strength to live on with courage in memory.

My very best friend at our school went through your situation several years ago.
He carries himself in a way every day that inspires me to truly love him as a man's man.

God bless you and all the students in the school along with the families of those lost and severely injured

I'm fortunate to have known all along how blessed I've been to know my subjects and have the ability to get them across.
Never forgetting that I'm teaching students, not just a subject--preparing them for their next step in life.
Never wasting my gifts given to me by my Creator.
 
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On the most very sad note, our young man who died had wonderful older sisters who I taught.
Another one will live but is paralyzed.
A third is in deep trouble with fluid on the brain and is in an induced coma.

Last night in IL, we had very cold November rain--black ice sort of--rain on dry, gas-slicked roads that caused the accident.
There's no comprehending a reason for this sort of thing happening time after time in my life with our kids for the last 38 years.
We must now just move slowly forward one day at a time, rebuilding their confidence and preparing the kids for life after high school .

Aw damn, Nimby, that's so sad to read. I am so sorry for the families and everyone else involved, including you.It's not right to see them go so young, and I can't even begin to imagine the grief the parents are feeling. My husband's brother died in an accident when he was 16, and 35 years later it still tears my MIL and my husband and his siblings apart. I'm so sorry.
 
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On the most very sad note, our young man who died had wonderful older sisters who I taught.
Another one will live but is paralyzed.
A third is in deep trouble with fluid on the brain and is in an induced coma.

Last night in IL, we had very cold November rain--black ice sort of--rain on dry, gas-slicked roads that caused the accident.
There's no comprehending a reason for this sort of thing happening time after time in my life with our kids for the last 38 years.
We must now just move slowly forward one day at a time, rebuilding their confidence and preparing the kids for life after high school .

My deep condolences.


After great pain, a formal feeling comes
By Emily Dickinson

After great pain, a formal feeling comes –
The Nerves sit ceremonious, like Tombs –
The stiff Heart questions ‘was it He, that bore,’
And ‘Yesterday, or Centuries before’?

The Feet, mechanical, go round –
A Wooden way
Of Ground, or Air, or Ought –
Regardless grown,
A Quartz contentment, like a stone –

This is the Hour of Lead –
Remembered, if outlived,
As Freezing persons, recollect the Snow –
First – Chill – then Stupor – then the letting go –
 
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Aw damn, Nimby, that's so sad to read. I am so sorry for the families and everyone else involved, including you.It's not right to see them go so young, and I can't even begin to imagine the grief the parents are feeling. My husband's brother died in an accident when he was 16, and 35 years later it still tears my MIL and my husband and his siblings apart. I'm so sorry.

You know tres, now with the election over, we were having a windy sunny, chilly day here in North Central IL and I thought of you in NH.
That "new day" commercial by Scott Brown was quite Reaganesque--you had two good candidates--thoughts of the ad made me feel good today.

As a parent of three boys, you know what it was like to have them go out driving with three other seniors and be on pins and needles yourself.
It was a cold November rainy night with oil-slicked roads since we hadn't had rain for a while.

The paralyzed boy has a chance to walk again--ironically due to advances made with our Wounded Warriors.
The induced coma boy had part of his skull cut out to relieve the pressure from fluid on the brain--he's hanging in there we pray.

I actually feel so relieved talking with you guys--too bad it took something like this to bring the good Linc back out of me.

I wish God's speed to Majority Leader McConnell and pray they can all work together again .
 
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Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts j-mac.
It means a lot to me to find solace with Veterans like you since my Dad was 22 years Air Force and 8 more Civil Service.

Don't mention it...As much as we sparred in the past, that has little to do with showing compassion, and I hope a little class when the time calls for such...The caring you show for this student, and the heaviness in your heart for the same shows that you are indeed who we want teaching our kids...

I still can't wrap my head around any reasoning as to why these things keep happening.
In 1976, when I experienced my first loss as a first-year Teacher, I made a conscious decision to NEVER write down the names or how these losses happened.
You can imagine how I must revisit this decision time and again, as with this past week.

I think whenever we see a life taken so young, with the promise that life represents it hits us all hard. You may never have written them down, but I suspect that in your conscious you have a special place for them all.

I take things too personal and haven't been able to separate electioneering with solving issues.
I was an asshole on DP on Tuesday night but I am better now and wanting to move forward with you and others.

One of my best friends on DP right now is Republican Beaudreax.
He worked in Illinois after our tornadoes an hour from where I live.
He very much helped our communities get back on their feet--this is why I believe there is so much overlap between Real life and internet life.

As I said think nothing of it, things in political debate often get heated, and I myself from time to time I am sure can come of rather assholeish myself...I don't take anything in here personal, and really do cherish my friends here on DP regardless of their leans politically...I think it is awfully cool that I have the chance to talk with people in here from literally all over the world, and share ideas, and from time to time a really good argument...The important thing is that when the chips are down, I'd give the shirt off my back to any of the people here whether I agree with them or not.

Before I head out for the day, including stops at the school, I'm heartened by the jobs numbers today.
I just don't get why these numbers continue to get shot down by conservatives but must start reading what you guys say when done tactfully.
I also must stop taking things personally and realize with some it is just politics and move on.

I too heard that this morning on my way home from the Doc's office, and thought to myself that it was good news that not only were the UE number still trending downward, but that the participation rate was also getting better, and although it isn't in large chunks, it is better than going the other way...As for why Conservatives continue to shoot it down, is just part of the argument today. Part of it is probably as you and others charge that we just can't give Obama an inch, largely because in the past when we have we usually get burned, but also because we are so divided these days that it just sticks in the craw to do so...We each want the other to be the first to show some quarter.

Once again, thank you and know your positivity drives with me today .

Thank you, I am glad I could provide some small solace...Anything you need feel free to ask.
 
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