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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

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    I'm very fortunate to have this DP outlet since I am retired but my wife still teaches.
    Tutoring and coaching is great and I'm still wonderfully received whenever I visit the high school.
    Wrestling season begins next Monday so I'll be around much more.

    Our first funeral is at the school Saturday.
    From there, we'll begin dedication mode and one day at a time recovery.

    I might as well say it--another great problem in our part of the state is Heroin.
    I am now an official carrier of NARCON and have lost three former students in the last five years.

    I will say that my posting towards politics has certainly tempered to a point of praying for our Nation to work together.
    I wish God's speed to Sen. McConnell .
    What is NARCON?

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate your undying support for President Obama but you have to remember that a lot of the vulnerable Democrat Senators this election cycle were in/from states that voted for Romney in the 2010 Presidential election. They got elected in the Obama 2008 sweep and were seriously vulnerable as Obama's luster dulled. States like North Carolina, Louisiana, Montana, etc. would not have returned Democrat Senators if their campaign was based on undying support of President Obama and his administration. Their only hope for reelection was to marginalize Obama and try to convince voters that Obama would be gone soon and they could still serve their constituents despite Obama. They failed, but they would have been completely blown out of the water had they paraded Obama and his Presidency around their states.


    They did not necessarily need to parade Obama and his Presidency around the country, but they did not have to turn their backs on his policies and issues either. The President does have a record, to his credit, and these candidates voted for these policies and should not have pretended they were someone they were not! Politics is a crummy business!

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

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    I'm sure that is what he thought and what he hoped for, but that is not how it actually turned out. The Democrats did hardly anything to promote his policies or to refute the Republican rhetoric against him.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Yes, I know exactly what you mean. The Democrats do not know how to blow their own horn or how to shoot down the opposition with actual facts. I hope they learned a lesson or two from their defeat in this election!
    Electioneering versus legislation---Dems lost on both counts the last two years as per public perception.

    GOP pundits are now admitting they're amazed Dems didn't brag about the economy.
    Though you must have noticed how many conservatives still debated the economy in a negative way--that's politics and they won.

    GOPs started running anti-ACA ads last November and Dems allowed themselves to be defined for several months with no answer.
    Just like Hillary right now--the GOP is already off to a running start for 2016.

    IMHO, Dems are now reduced to trivial pursuit.
    Disorganized, Despondent and completely Defeated with no idea what to do.

    Just two short years after reelecting their own President with very short coattails.
    Even winning Dems ran selfish campaigns with an every man for himself attitude .
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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What is NARCON?
    The chemical name is Naloxone.
    It's a miracle drug that is booted into the muscle of the thigh for heroin overdose victims.
    If you get them within 30 minutes of the overdose, it completely reverses the effect of heroin.

    We also have a new law in Illinois called the "good Samaritan" law,
    where you don't get in trouble with the law for delivering overdosed victims to an emergency room.

    We now have a HERO program in Illinois begun by a 40-year Chicago policeman.
    He lost his last son to Heroin and has now dedicated his life to this most dangerous epidemic.

    The problem of course is the higher potency of today's H,
    the different drugs such as speed that H is now cut with creating the speed-ball effect,
    and the original culprit opiate oxycodone pharmaceutical .
    Physics is Phun

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    A pretty good job? Over 7 trillion added to the debt, 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, the same number of people working today as were working when the recession began, stagnant GDP, Debt exceeding our yearly GDP, Foreign policy disasters? Guess you were referring to his golf handicap? Must be lonely for a progressive in Oklahoma!


    His record and accomplishments are a helluva lot better than that! I cannot list them all, but we all know what they are even if you don't agree with them! As far as that red line in the sand, I was not pleased about that, but will give him credit for keeping us out of another full scale war.

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The Slate story reflects the exit polls. According to the exit polls 45% of voters said the President was not a factor, but 52% said that they voted either to express opposition to the President (33% of voters) or to express support for the President (19% of voters). Those who voted to express opposition supported Republicans by a 92%-6%. Those who voted to express support for the President supported Democrats by a 93%-6% margin. For Democrats, it was devastating that the cohort voting to express opposition to the President was about 70% larger than the cohort voting to express support for the President. To illustrate just how damaging that disparity was, the 45% of voters who said that the President was not a factor voted for the Democrats by a 55%-42% margin.


    They also said that the economy and gridlock in Congress were their two pet peeves. Those who said economy were also focused on income disparity!

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I do through my 401k and the phoney money digitized to prop this President up scares me to death.


    I don't think that comment was directed to you, but just let me say that your 401k is doing pretty dam good, isn't it?

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The President acknowledges his policies were essentially on the ballot. In a number of states where the President took action (Like North Carolina and Maryland) you saw a candidate who polls were suggesting should win (in some cases win easily) end up losing. Every poll you look at has the President wildly unpopular. Every single exit poll and other type of poll shows voter disatisfaction with Obamacare, and every Republican that won in a battle ground race did so by at least partially, if not primarily, campaigning AGAINST Obamacare. Various aspects of the administrations mishandling of different issues or policies were routinely shown on exit polls as some of the top things that weighed on voters minds.

    Yet somehow, beyond all reason (which is a stalwart trait of hyper partisans), we have people banging the delusional propoganda drum that the Democrats lost becuase they weren't liberal enough and didn't embrace Obama enough.

    Based on what? There's PLENTY of evidence to point to as a means of supporting an assertion that Obama was a negative on the Democrats this time out. I accept the notion that said assertion may be wrong, but I've yet to see ANYONE put forward any kind of compelling argument to the contrary other than what amounts to "umm...umm.....PEOPLE LIKE OBAMA!" Please, provide some kind of hard evidence that would lend a reasonable and logical person whose not a rabid hyper partisan liberal to believe that the reason the Democrats lost this election was because they didn't embrace Obama ENOUGH?



    You are missing my point. They did not have to embrace Obama, but they should have embraced the policies that THEY voted for, and it seems that the only people who like and embrace Obama care are those that have it!

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    Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The chemical name is Naloxone.
    It's a miracle drug that is booted into the muscle of the thigh for heroin overdose victims.
    If you get them within 30 minutes of the overdose, it completely reverses the effect of heroin.

    We also have a new law in Illinois called the "good Samaritan" law,
    where you don't get in trouble with the law for delivering overdosed victims to an emergency room.

    We now have a HERO program in Illinois begun by a 40-year Chicago policeman.
    He lost his last son to Heroin and has now dedicated his life to this most dangerous epidemic.

    The problem of course is the higher potency of today's H,
    the different drugs such as speed that H is now cut with creating the speed-ball effect,
    and the original culprit opiate oxycodone pharmaceutical .
    Im a Paramedic and PA, I know what Narcan is, Ive never heard of Narcon. Most kids aren't overdosing from heroin but rather home opiates. And how did you get a vial without a prescription? Its not something a layperson should have, for numerous reasons.

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