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    Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    The U.S. government agreed to a police request to restrict more than 37 square miles of airspace surrounding Ferguson, Missouri, for purported safety reasons during 12 days of protests in August — but audio recordings obtained by The Associated Press show that local authorities privately acknowledged the purpose was to keep away news helicopters.The new revelation is fresh evidence of the tension between law enforcement and media in the St. Louis suburb, where reporters and photographers said they suffered harassment by police while covering protests over the shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white police officer this summer.
    Examples include police firing tear gas at an Al Jazeera television crew, and officers arresting two reporters — Ryan J. Reilley of The Huffington Post and Michael Lowery of The Washington Post — as they sat charging their phones at a McDonald’s restaurant near the demonstration.
    Authorities released the journalists hours later without charges, having swept them up for allegedly not leaving the restaurant fast enough after they were ordered to do so. Scott Olson, a Getty photographer, suffered a similar fate in police actions widely condemned by media organizations and press-freedom advocates. Police also told demonstrators, some of them citizen journalists, that they were not allowed to film officers, despite it being within their constitutional rights to do so.
    But the AP’s exclusive report reveals a higher level of police attempts to hamstring media coverage of the demonstrations. On Aug. 12, the morning after the Federal Aviation Administration imposed the first flight restriction, FAA air traffic managers struggled to redefine the flight ban to let commercial flights operate at nearby Lambert-St. Louis International Airport and police helicopters fly through the area — but to bar others.


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    More proof of squashing freedom of the press in Ferguson. We were told there was a flight ban over parts of the city because of "safety" but in reality these audio recordings prove it was to try to silence some of the press.


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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Might want to read something other than Al Jazeera and RT, which tend to spin things into an anti-US view when this as an example has a very simple explanation that has historical and safety precedence.

    It is normal practice to limit airspace access over areas that police helicopters are being used, to reduce the potential for mid-air collisions in uncontrollable airspace with police and news helicopters flying all around in every direction and altitude (usually in the dark but also during daylight hours) without the ability to prevent them from making course or altitude changes at will, which is because mid-air collisions and near collisions have happened in the past. This is done in many areas, including the liberal havens of California, New York and so on.

    Here's just one example: 2007 Phoenix news helicopter collision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Might want to read something other than Al Jazeera and RT, which tend to spin things into an anti-US view when this as an example has a very simple explanation that has historical and safety precedence.
    Blame the source. I guess AP must have an "anti-US view" AP Exclusive: Ferguson no-fly zone aimed at media


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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    More proof of squashing freedom of the press in Ferguson. We were told there was a flight ban over parts of the city because of "safety" but in reality these audio recordings prove it was to try to silence some of the press. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Too many aircraft in an airspace, who under no control, could result in a midair collision. This is nothing but a consoiracy theory.
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Too many aircraft in an airspace, who under no control, could result in a midair collision. This is nothing but a consoiracy theory.
    Give me a break ADPST.
    "audio recordings obtained by The Associated Press show that local authorities privately acknowledged the purpose was to keep away news helicopters."... ""They finally admitted it really was to keep the media out," said one FAA manager about the St. Louis County Police in a series of recorded telephone conversations"..... "a manager at the FAA's Kansas City center said police "did not care if you ran commercial traffic through this TFR (temporary flight restriction) all day long. They didn't want media in there."....


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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Blame the source. I guess AP must have an "anti-US view" AP Exclusive: Ferguson no-fly zone aimed at media
    No. I didn't blame the source. I made a specific statement about the source, but I spent the majority of my post debunking the story.

    This is just grasping for something by the media that isn't there. The government has a responsibility to protect the population from harm caused by irresponsible people that are more concerned with getting there first even if it interferes with the police and endangers the general public.

    Did you read the link I provided you?
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Blame the source. I guess AP must have an "anti-US view" AP Exclusive: Ferguson no-fly zone aimed at media
    As racist radicals plan to destroy Ferguson when their lies are dismissed by the Grand Jury, it probably makes sense to keep the skies clear so innocent people can be rescued from the race baiters.

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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    More proof of squashing freedom of the press in Ferguson. We were told there was a flight ban over parts of the city because of "safety" but in reality these audio recordings prove it was to try to silence some of the press. [/FONT][/COLOR]

    In non conspiratorial news, "Earlier this week we found out that sources close to the proceedings in Ferguson believe that there won’t be any state level murder charges forthcoming against Darren Wilson stemming from the shooting of Michael Brown this summer. Now the Washington Post is claiming that an anonymous source familiar with proceedings at the Justice Department don’t see much hope for a federal level civil rights case against the officer either."

    No federal civil rights charges expected against Darren Wilson « Hot Air

    So there's nothing there....Move along.
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Give me a break ADPST.
    "audio recordings obtained by The Associated Press show that local authorities privately acknowledged the purpose was to keep away news helicopters."... ""They finally admitted it really was to keep the media out," said one FAA manager about the St. Louis County Police in a series of recorded telephone conversations"..... "a manager at the FAA's Kansas City center said police "did not care if you ran commercial traffic through this TFR (temporary flight restriction) all day long. They didn't want media in there."....
    Commercial traffic is under the strict altitude and course control of the ATC. Media helicopters are not. That is why the media was kept out - and why they should be kept out.
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Give me a break ADPST.
    "audio recordings obtained by The Associated Press show that local authorities privately acknowledged the purpose was to keep away news helicopters."... ""They finally admitted it really was to keep the media out," said one FAA manager about the St. Louis County Police in a series of recorded telephone conversations"..... "a manager at the FAA's Kansas City center said police "did not care if you ran commercial traffic through this TFR (temporary flight restriction) all day long. They didn't want media in there."....
    Yes. The media jackals who would fly around at will and cause problems for air units trying to do their job. What is wrong with using ground based cameras by the media? Additionally...evidence is still supporting law enforcement in the shooting. So it seems the outrage is...well...pointless
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