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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    There's a fair bit of cognitive dissonance going on with the conservatives regarding this Ferguson situation.

    You don't trust government, but you appear to blindly belief anything that comes out from the Ferguson PD. Even confronted with straight up proof, you make every effort to deny, deflect or completely ignore evidence that gives credence to the idea that there's something fishy going on in Ferguson.

    It's kind of pathetic.
    Just like how the conservatives on this page were in strong opposition to the comments and actions made and carried out by Holder and Obama (government)? Nice sweeping statements too.

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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    That is a pretty weak counterpoint. Newly revealed records, discussed in places other than this, clearly show that the purpose of the requested TFR was to keep the media out. Ferguson's claims of their helicopter being fired upon are called "rumors" even by the feds.
    Facts are not weak, and are not a counterpoint - they just happen to be "the point."
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Authorities probably did request the restriction. The last thing you need when you're trying to keep a riot under control is some asshole in a news chopper telling the "protesters" where the cops are staging and what direction they're moving.
    Someone can do that with a balloon mounted camera. Or a $300 drone with camera.
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    There's a fair bit of cognitive dissonance going on with the conservatives regarding this Ferguson situation.

    You don't trust government, but you appear to blindly belief anything that comes out from the Ferguson PD. Even confronted with straight up proof, you make every effort to deny, deflect or completely ignore evidence that gives credence to the idea that there's something fishy going on in Ferguson.

    It's kind of pathetic.
    What evidence do you have to support your claim?

    Restricting airspace because the helicopters are dangerously flown? Or the evidence regarding the death of brown? You know. The evidence that shows he was absolutely not some "sweet African American child destined for doctoral fame" and was instead involved in strong arm robbery and tried to grab the gun of the cop?
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    Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Someone can do that with a balloon mounted camera. Or a $300 drone with camera.
    People are stupid and they would watch tv before they would do that. Hell...for that matter why didn't the press do that?
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

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    Hi. Pilot here. You don't know what you're talking about.
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    There's a fair bit of cognitive dissonance going on with the conservatives regarding this Ferguson situation.

    You don't trust government, but you appear to blindly belief anything that comes out from the Ferguson PD. Even confronted with straight up proof, you make every effort to deny, deflect or completely ignore evidence that gives credence to the idea that there's something fishy going on in Ferguson.

    It's kind of pathetic.
    That comment could be said about the extremes on both sides. In fact, the majority of people, like me, prefer to wait and see what the evidence (empirical evidence) shows before jumping to conclusions - whether that conclusion is that he had his hands up and was not approaching the officer, or that the officer was justified in shooting him. I didn't see it, and from what I can see from the hyperbolic nature of this event, both the race hatred industry on the left and the right skewed the facts from the beginning.

    At this time, the evidence appears to be leaning toward neither the US DOJ or the local DA pressing charges against the officer. Why that is, is still not completely clear. However, clear or not, the tendency appears to be that the narrative in the media and from the black community leaders demanding the officers head is not completely accurate. Again, I don't know what all the evidence shows or doesn't show, but to say that there is evidence to justify prosecution, much less conviction, of the officer at this time, is not supported by the facts that we do know, nor the leaks and hints coming from both the local DA and the US DOJ (which is not, just in case you forgot, run by a conservative).
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    It was unconstitutional and wrong for the locals and the FAA to ban copters for the purpose of limiting the media coverage. The local taxpayers will probably have to fund several lawsuits or settlements as a result, while the responsible public officials will suffer no consequences. The clueless way the local government handled the shooting and protests shows a need for better training for elected officials, police and other responders on dealing with such situations.

    However, I have seen many protests with several news copters hovering around, which creates a lot of noise and makes for a more tense situation. I suspect that the noise may make violence or destruction more likely. If it was up to me, I would only allow one copter well above the protest at a time.

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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    What evidence do you have to support your claim?

    Restricting airspace because the helicopters are dangerously flown? Or the evidence regarding the death of brown? You know. The evidence that shows he was absolutely not some "sweet African American child destined for doctoral fame" and was instead involved in strong arm robbery and tried to grab the gun of the cop?
    Did the PD restrict airspace for the Keene Pumpkin riot?

    If the behavior is different for the same thing, then it's clear bias imo.
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    Re: Ferguson police used flight restrictions to muzzle media, with feds' help

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Someone can do that with a balloon mounted camera. Or a $300 drone with camera.
    A broadcast quality drone costs more than that. It isn't legal to use a drone for commercial purposes without an FAA permit, and the permits are virtually impossible to obtain. I don't know whether balloons are legal to use that way.

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