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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I wouldn't go that far necessarily. I support medical assisted suicide but I think we should do our best to push otherwise healthy people away from such an extreme course of action. If you find someone with their wrists slit and a suicide note do you resuscitate them or would that be disrespecting their wishes because they wanted to die? I think we obviously resuscitate them and do what we can to prevent a recurrence. As much as I support the sovereignty that you have over your own body I think it's also important to remember that life is precious and we have an interest in preventing it's needless extinguishment.
    I think that we should be doing everything possible to help people who want want to die to want to live. But at the same time, it's their choice. If they don't want to live, and don't want help, they are living in misery at some point they will do it or do something worse to others. We shouldn't force people to live.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What is disgusting is the whole right wing myth of "death panels" arose from a stipulation in health reform that would have reimbursed doctors for the time they spent with patients discussing end of life decisions.

    Just the same, telling someone with late stage 4 cancer that they must die "naturally" regardless of how horrible of a death that will be, is a perfect example of socially conservative authoritarianism.
    If you are under the care of a physician or in hospice, no one dies a natural death. You are drug induced until the end.
    Some folks want to die with a bit more clarity.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What is disgusting is the whole right wing myth of "death panels" arose from a stipulation in health reform that would have reimbursed doctors for the time they spent with patients discussing end of life decisions.

    Just the same, telling someone with late stage 4 cancer that they must die "naturally" regardless of how horrible of a death that will be, is a perfect example of socially conservative authoritarianism.
    It's true, Leftists politicize everything.

    I'mnot totally against the idea of assisted suicide just who's in charge of when and how.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    I don't believe in the prescription system as it stands. I think if you want to buy drugs that will take your own life, that's your business.

    THAT said, there is a grave moral difference between you, at home, administering this medication to yourself, and someone else killing you.

    The latter is a line that should not be crossed.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It's true, Leftists politicize everything.

    I'mnot totally against the idea of assisted suicide just who's in charge of when and how.
    "Leftists politicize everything! Now let me tell you how the government is going to start forcing euthanasia on people because Obamacare rarrrgh!"
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I don't believe in the prescription system as it stands. I think if you want to buy drugs that will take your own life, that's your business.

    THAT said, there is a grave moral difference between you, at home, administering this medication to yourself, and someone else killing you.

    The latter is a line that should not be crossed.
    You think patients should be forced to self-prescribe and self-administer? Gee, what could possibly go wrong.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You think patients should be forced to self-prescribe and self-administer? Gee, what could possibly go wrong.
    For THIS? Yes, self-administration is a necessity. This isn't an antibiotic or something along those lines - if anyone else administers it, they have killed you in aggression, in violation of your unalienable rights. That would be, and should be, murder.

    Also, I am not saying doctors should not be prescribing medication... as in, "you should take x, here are your instructions"... but medication is still a product produced for consumers, and no, I don't think it should only be allowed to purchase or possess in such a limited fashion. I have no rational interest in buying medicine I don't need that doesn't have physician instructions attache, but it's the principle of the thing.

    As such, I cannot object to someone purchasing a product with the intent to kill themselves, then doing so. Unless you are attacking someone else, you and only you have the right to kill yourself.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    For THIS? Yes, self-administration is a necessity. This isn't an antibiotic or something along those lines - if anyone else administers it, they have killed you in aggression, in violation of your unalienable rights. That would be, and should be, murder.

    Also, I am not saying doctors should not be prescribing medication... as in, "you should take x, here are your instructions"... but medication is still a product produced for consumers, and no, I don't think it should only be allowed to purchase or possess in such a limited fashion. I have no rational interest in buying medicine I don't need that doesn't have physician instructions attache, but it's the principle of the thing.

    As such, I cannot object to someone purchasing a product with the intent to kill themselves, then doing so. Unless you are attacking someone else, you and only you have the right to kill yourself.
    It's not "killing in aggression," it's a voluntary medical procedure to end your own suffering.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I think that we should be doing everything possible to help people who want want to die to want to live. But at the same time, it's their choice. If they don't want to live, and don't want help, they are living in misery at some point they will do it or do something worse to others. We shouldn't force people to live.
    What kinds of things would you exclude from "everything possible". That happens to be a very scary term to me.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not "killing in aggression," it's a voluntary medical procedure to end your own suffering.
    Be specific.

    Buying yourself a lethal medication and consuming it yourself is not aggression because you cannot aggress against yourself.

    A healthcare professional administering such a medication is deliberately and aggressively killing you, in violation of your human rights.

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