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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Its mind boggling to think that a person cannot end their own life if they choose. Are there really people out there who want to force people to stay alive who are suffering? I understand a family member or close friend may want to encourage her to keep fighting, or don't want to lose someone they love. But at the same time I am sure those same people respect her wishes and are glad to see her in peace. Its her life, her decision. The rest of the world has no place to tell her she can't die.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It isn't assisted suicide in a case like this that makes people so uncomfortable. It's the Pandora's Box it opens in the process.

    Where's the line? Terminal conditions only? Define terminal in terms of time (we're all terminal eventually). What about someone who survives a stroke but is incapacitated in some fashion. What about someone with severe multiple sclerosis? What about someone with early dementia? Someone paralyzed or who lost limbs?

    Bottom line is, there's no one stopping most anyone from ending their own life if that is what they want to do.

    It's an awfully difficult thing to imagine from any angle.
    Simply put, anyone who wants to die should be able to.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The end result is the same.
    I don't think a family wants to watch a member blow their brains out.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So the fact that someone that was terminally ill had to pick up and move their family to a different state just so they could die with dignity does not in your opinion make them "a poster child for the cause"?
    Let me start this off with this, I support these laws. I'm 100% ok with someone having this option. And I do have problem with anyone being made a "poster child" for this issue.

    Frankly and in my opinion, don't necessarily think this is an issue that should be an "activist" issue. You can see this getting bastardized already with catch phrase being used..."die with dignity." WTF does that even mean? So someone who does not utilize this route is "undignified" or has lost their dignity? Whether its their faith, wanting to hold every second they have left to be with their family, etc?

    Call it what it is and leave it at that. Its medically assisted suicide. If you have to rebrand it to sell it, you haven't worked hard enough to convince people on it's merits.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Simply put, anyone who wants to die should be able to.
    And they can. Happens all the time.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Let me start this off with this, I support these laws. I'm 100% ok with someone having this option. And I do have problem with anyone being made a "poster child" for this issue.

    Frankly and in my opinion, don't necessarily think this is an issue that should be an "activist" issue. You can see this getting bastardized already with catch phrase being used..."die with dignity." WTF does that even mean? So someone who does not utilize this route is "undignified" or has lost their dignity? Whether its their faith, wanting to hold every second they have left to be with their family, etc?

    Call it what it is and leave it at that. Its medically assisted suicide. If you have to rebrand it to sell it, you haven't worked hard enough to convince people on it's merits.
    If Democrats can turn Paul Wellstone's funeral into a DNC political rally, then EVERYTHING is a "cause". It needs placards with fancy slogans and everything.

    I agree that "die with dignity" is insulting.

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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Let me start this off with this, I support these laws. I'm 100% ok with someone having this option. And I do have problem with anyone being made a "poster child" for this issue.

    Frankly and in my opinion, don't necessarily think this is an issue that should be an "activist" issue. You can see this getting bastardized already with catch phrase being used..."die with dignity." WTF does that even mean? So someone who does not utilize this route is "undignified" or has lost their dignity? Whether its their faith, wanting to hold every second they have left to be with their family, etc?

    Call it what it is and leave it at that. Its medically assisted suicide. If you have to rebrand it to sell it, you haven't worked hard enough to convince people on it's merits.
    Medically Assisted Suicide is all anyone has ever called it. All dying with dignity means is to die in a matter of ones own choosing if you have the capacity to do so. No one is arguing that every terminal patient should be put out of their misery before they die naturally. All anyone is saying is that if you are faced with an agonizing death the last few weeks of your life, you should have the option in consultation with your physician, to end your life prior to those last few agonizing weeks if you choose to do so.

    The reason why this woman was the poster child for the "cause" is she was forced to move across the country to have the right to do this. The vast majority of states do not allow physician assisted suicide. In the vast majority of states you are legally mandated to suffer all the way to the end no matter how bad it gets.

    In the vast majority of states we force cancer patients to endure a death we would not even allow our dog to endure. If someone wants to endure such a death then it is their life and they should be able to do so, but if you don't then the state should not be mandating that you do.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    A bullet or noose would likely have been cheaper. If sane adults cannot get heroin then why should they be able to get other lethal drug cocktails?
    A bullet or a noose? You're disgusting.

    Have you ever had to watch a friend or family member die a slow painful death from a terminal disease? My mother passed away nearly two years ago from cancer. To this day when I close my eyes and am not focused on anything I still hear her gasping for air, moaning in pain if the nurses went too long without giving her any pain medicine and bed ridden for days on end. I'm not sure if she would have taken the option if it was presented to her, because her cancer was so fast and sudden, but refusing to give someone the option is absolute madness. And to talk about using a bullet or a noose on a person in this state is one of the most revolting things I've ever heard on these forums. Comparing drug addicts to people who simply want to skip weeks of agonizing pain before death can't be described as anything but insanity.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    I can only hope that she repented of sin and came to know the Lord before her passing.
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    Re: Brittany Maynard, 29-year-old right-to-die advocate with brain cancer, ends her l

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Simply put, anyone who wants to die should be able to.
    I wouldn't go that far necessarily. I support medical assisted suicide but I think we should do our best to push otherwise healthy people away from such an extreme course of action. If you find someone with their wrists slit and a suicide note do you resuscitate them or would that be disrespecting their wishes because they wanted to die? I think we obviously resuscitate them and do what we can to prevent a recurrence. As much as I support the sovereignty that you have over your own body I think it's also important to remember that life is precious and we have an interest in preventing it's needless extinguishment.

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