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Republicans take big lead in colorado early voting

Zyphlin said:
I'm generally against early voting more than a week out, and think it absolutely should be reported in some fashion on a daily basis (similar to how the vote totals are reported for the actual final day of the electoin), and my stance on that remains regardless of who it's helping out.
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I think daily reporting it would only make it worse... Serving to decrease turnout on election day. Soe will just say, oh, my guy is so far behind (or ahead) there is no reason to even vote any longer.
 
How about this...Make Voting day the Saturday after taxes are due....So that would be second weekend of April....Then people would actually not have much excuse for not getting there, as most people are off on the weekends, at least those with normal jobs...Not me ofcourse....But then I usually vote by absentee ballot because I never know if I am going to be home on the day....
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm generally against early voting more than a week out, and think it absolutely should be reported in some fashion on a daily basis (similar to how the vote totals are reported for the actual final day of the electoin), and my stance on that remains regardless of who it's helping out.
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I'm against any kind of reporting on any day prior to actual election day. I think it could skew the results because people might base their decision whether to vote at all based on the early numbers. I'd prefer that people's motivation to vote (or not) be honest.
 
radcen said:
I'm against any kind of reporting on any day prior to actual election day. I think it could skew the results because people might base their decision whether to vote at all based on the early numbers. I'd prefer that people's motivation to vote (or not) be honest.
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My take is that under our current system I don't really believe that peoples motivation to vote or not is singularly "honest". Both sides routinely go out of their way with ground games attempting to stir people up on, or before, election day to get them to the polls largely out of pressure and constant bothering. I don't find people spurred to vote based on those type of things any more "honest" than those spurred because of seeing an early vote total.
 
Zyphlin said:
My take is that under our current system I don't really believe that peoples motivation to vote or not is singularly "honest". Both sides routinely go out of their way with ground games attempting to stir people up on, or before, election day to get them to the polls largely out of pressure and constant bothering. I don't find people spurred to vote based on those type of things any more "honest" than those spurred because of seeing an early vote total.
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I think it's subconscious for most people. If their person is ahead they may not feel any urgency and choose to be lazy. If their person is behind, and they are usually lazy, that may motivate them whereas they may not have been motivated otherwise.

Supposedly, this is why many news organizations choose to wait until after the polls close before they start giving numbers, even though they don't have to wait.
 
radcen said:
I think it's subconscious for most people. If their person is ahead they may not feel any urgency and choose to be lazy. If their person is behind, and they are usually lazy, that may motivate them whereas they may not have been motivated otherwise.
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True. Conversely, they could see their guy is ahead and be motivated to go cast a vote for the guy who seems like he'll be the winner. On the flip side, if their person is behind they could just feel it's a lost cause and not bother to get up and go.

Either way...so what to any of those things? Why is that different than the plethora of other things that impact whether or not someone votes?
 
Perotista said:
I'm not either, even though I have already voted. I am with you, it doesn't matter which side benefits or not, we have election day and that is what it should be, Election Day. Not Election week, Election Month and so on. For those who are not home or can't vote that day, there is always an absentee ballot.
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I'll be glad to talk about 8+ hour voting lines dating back to Ohio that cost Kerry the election on forward through the next five elections including tomorrow another time.

I'll be phone-banking again today but please leave a message since I need breaks--it's not as easy as it looks.

I'll be anxious to hear how that bad storm affects voter turnout in the East and Northeast.

I won't get home until about 11:00 PM my time. I'll send you my Senate picks by PM by midnight with other predictions and CC them to Captain Courtesy since I speak with him often.

I cherish my right to vote as a USA citizen for reasons you and I have discussed many times .
 
radcen said:
Is it just me, or is the AP's headline misleading? As I read it, election numbers haven't been released, only how many registered to each party that have voted.

Granted, it'd be overwhelmingly the same thing, of course, but it comes off to me as irresponsible to imply it as actual election numbers.

I also question whether the Secretary of State should release any details at all, but that's another issue.
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Nah, that's pretty accurate. You can do predictive modelling based on turnout to give you a fairly good idea how the election will turn out.

The GOP is slightly ahead in the polls. There's no question about that. The hope for the Democrats is that they'd have a better GotV effort as they did in 2012 where they outperformed the polls. This seems to imply that the GOP GotV effort has significantly improved. However, it's not definitive. There's still a question as to who's actually voting. Did the GOP target low probability voters? Or did the GOP target likely voters to improve their early voting numbers?
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm generally against early voting more than a week out, and think it absolutely should be reported in some fashion on a daily basis (similar to how the vote totals are reported for the actual final day of the electoin), and my stance on that remains regardless of who it's helping out.
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Personally, yes I agree. Longer than a week is a bit much. But why "early" voting instead of just saying "polls are open for a week?" Open polls the first Monday of November, and close them on Saturday. That would be great, IMO.
 
radcen said:
I'm with you two. I did vote last week because I was down at the county building to register a vehicle anyway, so I "killed two birds with one stone" so to speak, but as a general concept I'd rather we not have it.

But, at the same time, it's not like it's a total outrage, either, and is waaaaay down on my list of things to worry about.
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Exactly, same thing here. I think what actually brought early voting to my attention as it was a none issue before that. It was that Ohio began early voting back in 2012 a week before the first presidential debate. That was when I decided it was plain wrong. But like you say, there are tons of other issues way ahead of it.
 
NIMBY said:
I'll be glad to talk about 8+ hour voting lines dating back to Ohio that cost Kerry the election on forward through the next five elections including tomorrow another time.

I'll be phone-banking again today but please leave a message since I need breaks--it's not as easy as it looks.

I'll be anxious to hear how that bad storm affects voter turnout in the East and Northeast.

I won't get home until about 11:00 PM my time. I'll send you my Senate picks by PM by midnight with other predictions and CC them to Captain Courtesy since I speak with him often.

I cherish my right to vote as a USA citizen for reasons you and I have discussed many times .
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Okay...............
 
j-mac said:
How about this...Make Voting day the Saturday after taxes are due....So that would be second weekend of April....Then people would actually not have much excuse for not getting there, as most people are off on the weekends, at least those with normal jobs...Not me ofcourse....But then I usually vote by absentee ballot because I never know if I am going to be home on the day....
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That would start the campaigns in the winter. Yuk.
 
What is the republican platform in Colorado that is making the independents go from democrat to republican?
 
Blue_State said:
What is the republican platform in Colorado that is making the independents go from democrat to republican?
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The dark money ads trashing Udall have been brutal--as I heard a month ago on my way to LV and back. Eastern CO is deep red and Western is getting redder each term. DEM hopes ride on the same poor polling as in 2012 with Obama, though in CO Dreamers will be sitting out to an extent .
 
Jack Hays said:
That would start the campaigns in the winter. Yuk.
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Yeah, but think about it...An April election ensures that the check people have to write to the IRS is super fresh in their minds at that point....Then I am sure a lot of campaigns would change....
 
US Conservative said:
DENVER (AP) -- Republicans are taking a big lead in early voting in Colorado.

A report from the Secretary of State on Friday showed that 104,000 more Republicans than Democrats had cast their ballots as the state conducts its first major mail-in election.

News from The Associated Press

Although a republican lead was expected, sounds like its much more than expected. :2wave:
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Why are voting results being reported out of the Secretary of State's office at all?

A few years back there was a controversy over media predicting results before the polls closed everywhere. The practice was stopped. I agree. Now it appears that voting information is being released far in advance of polls closing. This trend can't be good.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, but think about it...An April election ensures that the check people have to write to the IRS is super fresh in their minds at that point....Then I am sure a lot of campaigns would change....
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Not a bad point.
 
What will be the spin tomorrow?
 
US Conservative said:
It will just be two buttons with pictures of a pot leaf on one, and Rush Limbaugh on the other. And the Rush button wont even be wired up.
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Like Rush has never been a drug abuser.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, but think about it...An April election ensures that the check people have to write to the IRS is super fresh in their minds at that point....Then I am sure a lot of campaigns would change....
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That could backfire if someone's getting a big refund....
 
j-mac said:
That obviously voter fraud does exist because republican's won.
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I guarantee you won't hear much bitching about fraud from Conservatives if it's a Repub victory (which looks likely)
 
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