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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

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    Indentured servants are slaves, regardless, the original irish slaves were slaves....not indentured servants. In the beginning, no-one bothered with the subterfuge.



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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You should not be so down on yourself.
    Weak post is weak.

    "Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle."
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

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    Indentured servants are not slaves. You own a slave. You hire an indentured servant. An indentured servant can be a citizen and is considered another human being. Slaves generally are not and are considered property.
    Please read the posts before you respond. I never said indentured servants were slaves.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'd have done better to have said bigotry. but we were specifically referring to the US slave trade and not every slave trade that happened all over the world. Nice try though.

    I mean if you agree with my sig I'd be more than happy to put your name in there with apdst in agreement if you like?

    Just wondering why you are acting all butthurt about all this. I think I've been rather civil.
    A slave is a slave wherever they are. I don't know why you insist that slaves in America were different from any other slaves but in fact they weren't. The meaning of 'slave' and 'slavery' is the same everywhere.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

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    However, I do run into racism every now and then. It pisses me off because I say to myself "I'm doing everything right and I still get discriminated against".
    Did you see the movie 42 by chance? If anyone had a right to get pissed off it was these black ballplayers. Talk about discrimination! In the movie, Jackie Robinson (played by Chadwick Robinson) comes off initially as a talented and yet cocky young baseball player. There's a notable scene in the movie in which Robinson and Branch Rickey (played by Harrison Ford), President and General Manager of the Brooklyn Dodgers, who wants Robinson for his talent but has reservations concerning his attitude, share the following exchange:

    Jackie Robinson: You want a player who doesn't have the guts to fight back?

    Branch Rickey: No. I want a player who's got the guts *not* to fight back.

    Jackie Robinson: You give me a uniform, you give me a number on my back, I'll give you the guts.
    Life isn't always fair. Sometimes talented people get short shrift due to circumstances beyond their control. But one thing I can say with certainty, even if it's small comfort to you, is class always wins over the small-minded. Jackie Robinson had class. I don't know anyone who doesn't admire and respect that.
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Weak post is weak.

    "Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle."
    The Irish Slave Trade
    Somedays, I really wish people would check their sources before they started citing nutty revisionist websites:

    Michel Chossudovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In 2001, Chossudovsky founded the Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), located in Montreal, Canada, becoming its editor and director. It describes itself as being "committed to curbing the tide of globalisation and disarming the new world order".[5]
    A 2005 article in The Jewish Tribune criticized GlobalResearch.ca as "rife with anti-Jewish conspiracy theory and Holocaust denial." B'nai Brith Canada had complained that there were comments on a forum that questioned how many Jews died in the Holocaust.
    Terry O'Neill, in the Western Standard included Chossudovsky on the list of "Canada's nuttiest professors, those whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues";[16] criticizing Chussodovsky's thesis and views – that the U.S. had knowledge of the September 11 attacks before they happened; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and lastly, that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies – as "wild-eyed conspiracy theories".[16]
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    The Centre for Research on Globalization is – how to put it delicately- a Canadian clubhouse for crackpots of the anti-war, 911-truth, anti-imperialist and anti-Zionist variety. The Centre would not normally be worth noticing except for a laugh. But, today is not a normal day.
    You're using a "source" that is used by everyone from Stormfront to MotherJones to PrisonPlanet. You're not convincing anyone.
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Somedays, I really wish people would check their sources before they started citing nutty revisionist websites:

    Michel Chossudovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia







    Terry Glavin: Ottawa’s Gaddafi fans find their world crumbling | National Post



    You're using a "source" that is used by everyone from Stormfront to MotherJones to PrisonPlanet. You're not convincing anyone.
    Slavery in medieval Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Internet History Sourcebooks Project

    Internet History Sourcebooks Project

    Slavery in the British Isles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Whatever your view of the source, slavery in Europe of Europeans by Europeans is well documented dating all the way back to the Roman Empire. While white European slaves in America are often called "indentured servants" now, at the time they were slaves.
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Indentured servants are not slaves. You own a slave. You hire an indentured servant. An indentured servant can be a citizen and is considered another human being. Slaves generally are not and are considered property.
    That's incorrect, technically. Indentured servants were considered property.

    Slavery and Indentured Servants:Law Library of Congress
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.

    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.

    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.

    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.

    Whatever your view of the source, slavery in Europe of Europeans by Europeans is well documented dating all the way back to the Roman Empire. While white European slaves in America are often called "indentured servants" now, at the time they were slaves.
    Yes, and ALL of your links point to white slavery being an issue in the MIDDLE AGES. The fact that you posted a link to a revisionist website known for anti-semitic nonsense, well that just makes it laughable. Do you frequent a lot of revisionist websites mac?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.



    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.



    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.



    Nothing to do with your link to a nutty conspiracy website.
    Yes, they do have something to do with my link.

    Yes, and ALL of your links point to white slavery being an issue in the MIDDLE AGES. The fact that you posted a link to a revisionist website known for anti-semitic nonsense, well that just makes it laughable. Do you frequent a lot of revisionist websites mac?
    The history of white slavery is a valid part of my point, and these links verify that it existed. Further, they refer to the period of time in the first link regarding approx 100,000 Irish slaves exported to the Americas.

    Do you deny that there were white, Irish slaves shipped to the Americas and sold there?
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