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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    His nefarious motive was clear in his comment. He intends to use voter ID as a way to win elections for his party.
    By eliminating the voter fraud that benefits democrats.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I agree with you. However , from my experience, I face more in your face racism from right leaning crowds than left leaning crowds. The left leaning crowds feels more inclusive to anyone. Blacks, whites, hispanics, gays etc. Left leaning crowds are more likely to celebrate and embrace different cultures. Nobody is worried about the skin color of the other. You feel like you are welcome. Right leaning crowds are different. From my experience, they will be nice to you, but it seems like it is forced. There is only one culture embraced generally.
    I have dealt with racism from both groups. The racism I've dealt with from White right-leaning people tends to be more overt, or "in your face", as you put it. The racism I've dealt with from White left-leaning people tends to be based more in the assumptions that underlie their descriptions of themselves and other racial groups. They may be more inclusive and more respectful of the rights and identities other people, but I've still seen many of them mock and denigrate non-white cultures and language.

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    And yet, you can't claim, as you did, that he personally committed the fraud that his staff was found guilty of. Spin all you want, and confront all you want, you claimed the guy did these things personally, and it's rather clear he did not. Case closed.
    You keep closing the case only to come back again and again.

    The entire fraud would not have been possible without Than McCotter. He turned in nominating petitions and singed the statement that he was responsible for their contents. He ran an arganization and utterly failed to properly perform his job regarding his staff and the content of those petitions. In my opinion, and in the opinion of Republican Attorney General Bill Schuette - that makes him the man responsible. It may not make him criminally liable - but that is a different matter altogether as the attorney general stated. If you want to paddle up the river denial because it somehow makes you feel better - its fine with me.
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    By eliminating the voter fraud that benefits democrats.

    Step one - before you eliminate it you have to identify it and prove it. Turzai went past that step.

    Without that valuable step - all he and other have is suspicions and in some cases - paranoia. Neither are proof of anything.
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You are the one demanding evidence of voter fraud. If you agree that there is voter fraud then why demand the evidence? And, more importantly, why throw a tantrum when someone tries to screen for voter fraud?
    First, we alredy screen for voter fraud. I have been screened every singletime I have voted over the last 44 years. We already do that.

    Second, the question is NOT and HAS NEVER BEEN if there is a case of voter fraud in the hundreds of millions votes cast in this nation every election cycle. So please flush that canard where it belongs.

    The question is clear and simple: is the level of voter election fraud enough to warrant a change via voter ID balanced against the risks of the voter ID Program and the announced intention of partisans to use it for their own nefarious political manipulations?

    That is the question.

    So get rid of your nonsense as it has no place in this discussion.
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You keep closing the case only to come back again and again.

    The entire fraud would not have been possible without Than McCotter. He turned in nominating petitions and singed the statement that he was responsible for their contents. He ran an arganization and utterly failed to properly perform his job regarding his staff and the content of those petitions. In my opinion, and in the opinion of Republican Attorney General Bill Schuette - that makes him the man responsible. It may not make him criminally liable - but that is a different matter altogether as the attorney general stated. If you want to paddle up the river denial because it somehow makes you feel better - its fine with me.
    The only one paddling is you, but I understand it makes you feel better.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

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    Actually the majority of tea partiers barely pay any attention to Glen Beck. I am a big tea party supporter. And while I think Beck has a great radio voice...I think he's a bit of a conspiracy nut. I am more of a Rush Limbaugh fan.
    He is no better my friend. He is a hate monger like Sharpton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The only one paddling is you, but I understand it makes you feel better.
    When the Republican Attorney General of Michigan - who knows this case a million times better than you ever will - agrees with me - it pretty much says you got nothing.
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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Yeah, there's racism. And there was racism during the Jim Crow era, too, when most black households were led by two parents who were married to each other and before the Civil Rights Act and Johnson's Great Society and War on Poverty programs. I mean, which is the bigger problem for blacks today? Racism or the fact that more than two-thirds of black babies are born out of wedlock?

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    I don't get your point? I was addressing racism. What you added benefits nothing to ending racism. Perhaps maybe you are justifying racism? I don't know.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    When the Republican Attorney General of Michigan - who knows this case a million times better than you ever will - agrees with me - it pretty much says you got nothing.
    So the AG says McCotter personally took part in the fraud, as you wrote? I'm sorry, perhaps I missed that. What I read was someone who trusted his staff, and paid the consequences for doing so. Again, I understand your need to claim he was the evil mastermind, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

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