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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

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    An op-ed isn't evidence.
    Did you actually open the link? Yes or no question.

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    Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans[W:466]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Nobody is doing anything for anyone right now. Our current congressional makeup is basically incapable of accomplishing anything.

    That said, you seem to expect the black community to dump the Democrats for a party that has shown virtually zero affinity for it. The Republicans have done virtually nothing but alienate black voters for 40 years.
    Hence the problem with people identifying as a republican or democrat and with people mindlessly voting for parties. Lord...when I hear people so heavily identify as either party they just sound retarded. I mean....SERIOUSLY retarded. It doesn't matter which side they represent they just sound stupid. My side is the BESTEST and the other side are always bad and should all just die!

    You are right that the GOP hasn't done anything to win over the black vote. They SHOULDNT. Politicians should be doing the right thing and creating opportunities for EVERYONE regardless of race. No one should be pandering to blocs. A better statement would be that BOTH parties have failed the country in total...and miserably.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    See amendments 14, 15, 19, 23, 24 and 26.
    Nope. Care to post the exact text that gaurantees the right to vote, in The Constitution. Or, admit that no text exists.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Did you actually open the link? Yes or no question.
    Yes, I did. I find it impossible to believe, that someone who is registered to vote doesn't drive a car, cash a check, pay with a check, have a job, pay taxes, recieve a tax refund, have a bank account, pay bills, have a utilities account, or anything else that requires a picture ID. Someone who doesn't have a picture ID is totally off the grid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nope. Care to post the exact text that gaurantees the right to vote, in The Constitution. Or, admit that no text exists.
    14th Amendment:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    15th:

    Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
    19th:

    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
    23rd:

    Section 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct:

    A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment.
    24th:

    The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
    26th:

    . The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    When the "controls" used disenfranchise FAR more people than there could possibly be cases of voter fraud to eliminate, then it becomes an issue of whether it's worth the cost.
    That's pretty much a matter of opinion. Just like who should and who shouldn't own a gun. It can be rationalized that the risk of allowing ineligible voters to vote damages our Democracy....which I find costly.

    It's a bit hypocritical to embrace regulating one right and disparage regulating another. I'm not saying you personally, but those that do.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, I did. I find it impossible to believe, that someone who is registered to vote doesn't drive a car, cash a check, pay with a check, have a job, pay taxes, recieve a tax refund, have a bank account, pay bills, have a utilities account, or anything else that requires a picture ID. Someone who doesn't have a picture ID is totally off the grid.
    Of course you do, yet many such people exist. This is incontrovertible fact.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's pretty much a matter of opinion. Just like who should and who shouldn't own a gun. It can be rationalized that the risk of allowing ineligible voters to vote damages our Democracy....which I find costly.

    It's a bit hypocritical to embrace regulating one right and disparage regulating another. I'm not saying you personally, but those that do.
    Nobody is saying "don't regulate it." But the scope of what you're trying to prevent, and the legitimate voters who would be prevented from voting, need to be considered when such regulations are enacted.

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    Re: Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Of course you do, yet many such people exist. This is incontrovertible fact.
    Incontravertible? Says who? Oh, the people who oppose voter ID's...go figger.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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