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    Re: New Russian Boldness Revives a Cold War Tradition: Testing the Other Side

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Not really.

    There were pictures early on of the outboard section (top) of the left wing which clearly showed the just-on-the-painted-surface track of one of the many cannon rounds. The left side of the cockpit showed the impact points (and penetration) by the rounds fired. The track on the wing aligned exactly with the cockpit damage.

    Cannon fire, NOT schrapnel damage from a BUK. It is entirely possible that some sort of ATG weapon was used, but there is no question that some cannon fire was involved. Peasants in the area reported seeing and hearing military fighter type aircraft climbing in the moments before, and the shenanigans reported regarding ATC instructions regarding altitude and routing support such deception.
    Absolute nonsense, they were not indicative of cannon rounds, they clearly showed shrapnel from a missile, missiles do not explode on impact they explode in proximity sending claymore type fragments into the target.

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    Re: New Russian Boldness Revives a Cold War Tradition: Testing the Other Side

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Absolute nonsense, they were not indicative of cannon rounds, they clearly showed shrapnel from a missile, missiles do not explode on impact they explode in proximity sending claymore type fragments into the target.
    We agree to disagree.

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    Re: New Russian Boldness Revives a Cold War Tradition: Testing the Other Side

    Forensic results on bodies and the air-frame of MH17 being conducted in the Netherlands will not be completed until spring/summer of 2015.

    Investigative Citizen Journalists Report That MH17 Downed by Rebels
    November 10, 2014

    As President Vladimir Putin accused Kiev of having hindered the official investigation into the downing of passenger plane MH17 in July, a group of investigative reporters have asserted that the plane was shot down by pro-Russian separatists using a missile system taken from Russia's military. The investigation, titled “Origin of the Separatists' Buk: A Bellingcat Investigation” and conducted by a citizen journalism group, used various sources for its research, including social media, Google Earth satellite imagery, reports by journalists who were on the ground in Ukraine at the time of the plane's downing and interviews with residents near the crash site.

    The Moscow Times
    The report, released Saturday, is available below.

    The Bellingcat Project


    Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet. -- Marine Corps General James 'Chaos' Mattis

    Repeal and Replace Trump.

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