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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If the point you're trying to make requires the removal of the context and intent of someone's quote, then your point probably isn't very good.
    Nope. You got it (willfully?) wrong. I took the sentence Tim uttered on it stand alone merits. And it flunked. Maybe he meant something deep and full of splendor and delight. But that is sort of as sexy as an I-Phone that doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Nope. You got it (willfully?) wrong. I took the sentence Tim uttered on it stand alone merits.
    Yes, out of context, removed of intent, removed of circumstances, removed of everything associated with the history of gay rights. Your point was worthless.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    My initial thought to this particular coming out,... Judging by his white hair and apparent age...

    Tim Cook, you couldn't be all that proud if it took you four decades or more to come out. Period.
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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    My initial thought to this particular coming out,... Judging by his white hair and apparent age...

    Tim Cook, you couldn't be all that proud if it took you four decades or more to come out. Period.
    Forty years? Let's not be ridiculous here. If you had told me ten years ago that 2014 would see the majority of the United States with legalized gay marriage I would have said, "Nope, way too optimistic, lower your expectations." I have little doubt that if he had been openly gay before the 21st century (at least) his business career would have suffered. Don't underestimate just how rapidly change has come in the last ten years.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Forty years? Let's not be ridiculous here. If you had told me ten years ago that 2014 would see the majority of the United States with legalized gay marriage I would have said, "Nope, way too optimistic, lower your expectations." I have little doubt that if he had been openly gay before the 21st century (at least) his business career would have suffered. Don't underestimate just how rapidly change has come in the last ten years.
    Oh, so it's a newly developed pride? Yes, pride often has costs, he was apparently not proud, as he put the worry of those costs ahead of what he claims to be proud of. There have been proud gay people in the past 40+ years that didn't exactly have their opportunities ruined for life...did quite well even. So he wasn't proud until it was PC to be proud, hence I question his supposed pride.
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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Oh, so it's a newly developed pride? Yes, pride often has costs, he was apparently not proud, as he put the worry of those costs ahead of what he claims to be proud of. There have been proud gay people in the past 40+ years that didn't exactly have their opportunities ruined for life...did quite well even. So he wasn't proud until it was PC to be proud, hence I question his supposed pride.
    Question it all you like, you still can't read his mind. You're not in his head, and you don't know what fears he did or didn't face before finally coming out.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Question it all you like, you still can't read his mind. You're not in his head, and you don't know what fears he did or didn't face before finally coming out.
    Well, pride is a quantifiable thing. If I'm going to rejoice and regale a proud, male, white citizen regarding their pride about being gay, I'll look instead to likes of Barney Frank, Neil Patrick Harris, and those have been out since their adulthood began and it wasn't at all "acceptable".
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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Well, pride is a quantifiable thing. If I'm going to rejoice and regale a proud, male, white citizen regarding their pride about being gay, I'll look instead to likes of Barney Frank, Neil Patrick Harris, and those have been out since their adulthood began and it wasn't at all "acceptable".
    Alright, so you can judge. It must be nice.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes, out of context, removed of intent, removed of circumstances, removed of everything associated with the history of gay rights. Your point was worthless.
    You mean the intent is well served by stupid sentences that are such in any context? What a pitiful way to bray out ones history.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... I wonder how many Christians will decide to stop using Apples because a gay man runs it. I'm sure they'll use other computers from now on.

    I have not started using Apples yet. I am on my fifth Blackberry.

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