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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

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    Note to American: Bigotry and oppression happen in the US. Still. And why you feel like it's whining is beyond me.
    Because people act like it's the most important issue in the galaxy, it's not.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Note to American: Bigotry and oppression happen in the US. Still. And why you feel like it's whining is beyond me.
    That something "exists" under ever shifting definitions doesn't mean that they are, or should be at the forefront of every damned charge.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Because people act like it's the most important issue in the galaxy, it's not.
    It's important for gay people to feel like first-class citizens, no?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's important for gay people to feel like first-class citizens, no?
    Yes, but not at the expense of all other things. I don't respect single-issue voters.
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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That something "exists" under ever shifting definitions doesn't mean that they are, or should be at the forefront of every damned charge.
    Spoken like someone who does not understand what it's like being a second-class citizen.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yes, but not at the expense of all other things. I don't respect single-issue voters.
    So what other issues suffer because gay people want to be treated like everyone else?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So what other issues suffer because gay people want to be treated like everyone else?
    It seems to me that many hyperfocus on that issue, but are difficult to be found when other more global issues such as the economy are being discussed. In fact many on the Left hate the Tea Party for trying to reduce the spending in Washington, that could actually benefit them; but have a march for gay marriage and they're all over it including in the forums. They get all angry when people on the Right don't provide their support for gay marriage, but don't want to support the causes the affects more then just themselves. That's partly why I stay out of those threads the vast majority of the time. They are one issue voters, just like the pro-choice crowd. Nothing else seems to matter.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    All I am saying, and I think, or would like to think that the majority of rational people have similar thoughts, NO ONE cares anymore what people do behind their own doors.
    How does one get to a place where they think they are capable of speaking for everyone? I can assure you, there are plenty of folks right here on this forum that do. This place is teeming with homophobes.

    It is this constant pushing it in peoples faces that angers them.
    Oh you mean like those on the religious right?

    Think about it, would appreciate it if the meme were constantly "I'm straight, and you need to know it and get down on bended knee"...
    Spend one day in the shoes of a gay man or woman applying for a job at a right wing business and then get back to me.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It seems to me that many hyperfocus on that issue, but are difficult to be found when other more global issues such as the economy are being discussed. In fact many on the Left hate the Tea Party for trying to reduce the spending in Washington, that could actually benefit them; but have a march for gay marriage and they're all over it including in the forums. They get all angry when people on the Right don't provide their support for gay marriage, but don't want to support the causes the affects more then just themselves. That's partly why I stay out of those threads the vast majority of the time. They are one issue voters, just like the pro-choice crowd. Nothing else seems to matter.
    Yeah, we on the left take human rights pretty seriously. Shame on us.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook comes out: 'I'm proud to be gay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Yeah, we on the left take human rights pretty seriously. Shame on us.
    I didn't realize gay marriage was a human right. Doesn't change my point about single issue voting. Shame on you.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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