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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So now you are going to pretend that THAT matters? Conspiring to commit fraud is ok if its just outside the voting area? I love it.
    Conspiring is a judicial determination. Are you a judge?

    A video of people "Bulsh*ting" outside... a polling place [my determination...not the videographer's] is not voter fraud. Voter fraud is the act of misrepresentation one's self or ability to vote at the time of voting to an election worker or judge.

    Unknown people talking BS outside a Walmart is not.


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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Again, similar to your debate complement here... you seem to have a hypocritical view of what is and is not rational to the discussion. I'll note you still do not have much answer as to all one needs and ID for today, including dealing with the government in so many ways. So again, why does an ID suppress voters but does not suppress all the other things you need an ID for when it comes to dealing with the government?
    I've answered the "ID is needed for.............." comment many times. Bottom line is the people without SFIPIDWCA (what's needed to vote) don't NEED those IDs or they'd have them already. So if you say, e.g., they need "ID" to deal with government, that's true. But at whatever level the 600,000 in Texas are dealing with government, they don't need a State or Federally Issued Photo ID with that is NOT a Student ID from a State College but could be a Gun Carry Permit or Veteran Card.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I've answered the "ID is needed for.............." comment many times. Bottom line is the people without SFIPIDWCA (what's needed to vote) don't NEED those IDs or they'd have them already. So if you say, e.g., they need "ID" to deal with government, that's true. But at whatever level the 600,000 in Texas are dealing with government, they don't need a State or Federally Issued Photo ID with that is NOT a Student ID from a State College but could be a Gun Carry Permit or Veteran Card.
    It is still a cop out. Requiring an ID to vote just means going and getting one.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    It is still a cop out. Requiring an ID to vote just means going and getting one.
    That's exactly why I didn't bother to go into detail before, because I was pretty sure your mind was made up, and it is.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's exactly why I didn't bother to go into detail before, because I was pretty sure your mind was made up, and it is.
    Because no one is able to prove the hardship in obtaining an ID, so the reason to keep people voting without an ID must be for other reasons.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Because no one is able to prove the hardship in obtaining an ID, so the reason to keep people voting without an ID must be for other reasons.
    I'd discuss this with you if I had ANY expectation that it would make a difference. The bottom line is if you want to read how and when it can be a hardship to get an State or Federally Issued Photo ID that is not a Student ID but can be a Gun Carry Permit or a Veteran's ID, read the district court's very lengthy analysis of that issue in the Texas case. I'd find the link but it's not hard to find if you're interested. After that if you want to talk about some of the many things brought up by the judge, we'll have a discussion.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But it does, and there are videos available of republicans saying their intent is to suppress voter turn out. This can't be ignored. Before you seek to fix a problem, you have to show it exists. I mean, if you're effort is honest.
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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    A...marxist Hispaince group uses the term "la Raza". That is not who call themselves raza.

    The Democratic Republic of China. That is what China calls themselves. Do you think China is either a Democratic form of government or a republic in our form of governance?

    What one group calls themselves is meaningless to all others those that use those terms.
    Not if that reflects its ideology. Words mean things.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Conspiring is a judicial determination. Are you a judge?

    A video of people "Bulsh*ting" outside... a polling place [my determination...not the videographer's] is not voter fraud. Voter fraud is the act of misrepresentation one's self or ability to vote at the time of voting to an election worker or judge.

    Unknown people talking BS outside a Walmart is not.
    Im not a judge, I just know what I saw on that video, and its not the only one. The left is willing to lie, cheat, steal, and even resort to violence when needed. Try not to act so surprised.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    La Raza is like a Mexican version of the [New] Black Panthers. Most Mexican Americans, shoot probably most Mexicans have zero to do with it.
    Fixed that for ya.
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